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Posted by on July 5, 2007, 12:52 pm
> >
> >
> > >I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
> > > Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
> > > Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
> > > Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
> > > feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
> > > savings).
> >
> > Its not about what "he" thinks, its about what *YOU* think. What are
your
> > expectations?? do you have other issues that need to be addressed?? Got
hot
> > or cold rooms?? noise issues?? indoor air quality issues?? Did he tell
you
> > about the federal income tax credit for 15SEER or above systems??
> >
> > > Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
> > > 2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
> >
> > > The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
> > > from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
> >
> > Price should not be the primary factor, and yes *EVERYTHING* is a lot
higher
> > priced than it used to be... even what it was just a couple of months
ago.
> > The deciding factors should be top quality installation, of top quality
> > equipment, by a *competent*, licensed, insured, professionally trained,
> > master hvac technician.
> > Those prices he quoted you are quite low, and then take a grand off
that?? I
> > would ask for pics and/or referals(names and contact numbers) of some of
his
> > customers where he has installed new systems over the last several
years.
> >
> > > He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
> > > get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
> > > problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
> >
> > Sounds like your "tech" needs to get some more training.
> > There have been a lot of discussions on here about R22/R410a. Here is a
link
> > to the EPA HCFC Phaseout
schedule;http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
> > FWIW, I have not even offered R-22 systems for the last year. There is
no
> > point and it would be a gross dis-service to my customers. Rheem/RUUD
will
> > stop manufacturing all R-22 systems in December this year.
> >
> > > The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
> > > upgrades, or add ons.
> >
> > I would get a couple of other quotes
> >
> > > Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
> >
> > nope... see above
> >
> > > What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A?
> >
> > He needs to get with the program.
> >
> > > Has anyone heard about problems with R410A?
> >
> > I have only had a problem with 1 of the many R-410a systems I have
> > installed. It had a leaky evap coil.
> >
> > > And will R22 be available for the foreseeable future?
> >
> > No.... see the EPA phase-out schedule..... and what little there might
be
> > left, will command a premium price.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Well, I don't have a lot of issues with my old 22+ year system. The
> bonus room over the garage tends to be a little warm in the summer and
> cool in the winter, but not too bad. It's just I think I got enough
> life out of them, and one of the A/Cs is getting cranky over the last
> week.
>
> So I know with even a 13 Seer, I'll should see significant improvement
> in both cooling and heating efficiency. It didn't seem to be worth
> spending the extra $1565 per unit to go with 15 Seer (and the
> adverised 9% efficiency improvement over 13 Seer). I had intended in
> going with R410A, but he seemed to downplay it. But maybe the extra
> $343/unit is worth it.
> Maybe he was just tryning to keep the prices lower. I already knew
> about the $300 tax credit, but with a $3130 price differential, it
> didn't seem worth it.
>
> Coolray has been around metro Atlanta for a while, and I've heard good
> things about them. The $1000 off was Coolray and Atlanta Gas Light
> rebates (I think). But I'll talk to a few more before I take the
> leap. I'm getting another Trane installer here today, and an American
> Standard (same as Trane???) tomorrow.
Yes, they are the same.
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