Need recommendation about new Trane system for Atlanta area. - Page 2

> I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
> Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
> Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
> Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
> feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
> savings).
> Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
> 2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
> The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
> from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
> He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
> get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
> problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.

>I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
>Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
>Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
>Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
>feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
>savings).
>Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
>2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
>The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
>from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
>He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
>get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
>problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
>The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
>upgrades, or add ons.
>Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
>What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A? Has anyone heard
>about problems with R410A? And will R22 be available for the
>foreseeable future?
>Thanks.

> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 07:35:43 -0700, nooneh...@mail.com wrote:
> >I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
> >Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
> >Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
> >Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
> >feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
> >savings).
> >Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
> >2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
> >The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
> >from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
> >He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
> >get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
> >problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
> >The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
> >upgrades, or add ons.
> >Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
> >What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A? Has anyone heard
> >about problems with R410A? And will R22 be available for the
> >foreseeable future?
> >Thanks.
> As far as zoning.........Im not totally thrilled with it. You already
> have 2 separate systems yet you still need zoning? You might need to
> address ductwork issues. Just my deal.....zoning is more parts to stop
> working. It works when done right but then, so do properly installed
> complete systems.
> Price? I dunno. Your best bet is to get 3 quotes from know reputable
> companies and dont be so hung up on the Trane brand. There are others.
> Unfortunately, I feel the best choice is to go to R-410a. I dont
> particularly like it but if R-22 disappears (like R-12 did) it will
> become scarce and expensive. Right now, R-410a seems to be the only
> "dumb" choice. :-)
> Id also make sure my indoor coil was a TXV metering device.
> I think matching a variable speed air handler with a 13 SEER unit in
> the Atlanta area isnt the best of choice. You dont necessarily need 19
> SEER or something but 13 is the bottom of the line. Also, when I last
> checked my pricing, American Standard R-22 and R410a systems were the
> same price (within a couple bucks).
> Get another quote.
> Bubba- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

> > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 07:35:43 -0700, nooneh...@mail.com wrote:
> > >I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
> > >Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
> > >Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
> > >Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
> > >feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
> > >savings).
> > >Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
> > >2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
> > >The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
> > >from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
> > >He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
> > >get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
> > >problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
> > >The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
> > >upgrades, or add ons.
> > >Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
> > >What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A? Has anyone heard
> > >about problems with R410A? And will R22 be available for the
> > >foreseeable future?
> > >Thanks.
> > As far as zoning.........Im not totally thrilled with it. You already
> > have 2 separate systems yet you still need zoning? You might need to
> > address ductwork issues. Just my deal.....zoning is more parts to stop
> > working. It works when done right but then, so do properly installed
> > complete systems.
> > Price? I dunno. Your best bet is to get 3 quotes from know reputable
> > companies and dont be so hung up on the Trane brand. There are others.
> > Unfortunately, I feel the best choice is to go to R-410a. I dont
> > particularly like it but if R-22 disappears (like R-12 did) it will
> > become scarce and expensive. Right now, R-410a seems to be the only
> > "dumb" choice. :-)
> > Id also make sure my indoor coil was a TXV metering device.
> > I think matching a variable speed air handler with a 13 SEER unit in
> > the Atlanta area isnt the best of choice. You dont necessarily need 19
> > SEER or something but 13 is the bottom of the line. Also, when I last
> > checked my pricing, American Standard R-22 and R410a systems were the
> > same price (within a couple bucks).

> > Get another quote.
> > Bubba- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> When I referred to "zone", I meant the "upstairs" and "downstairs"
> zones. I have two A/C units outside with 2 furnaces in the attic
> (I'm on a slab). Sorry if I used the wrong terminology.
> I just got a second quote for the same systems, and it was $5080 and
> $4480 before any rebates.

> Interesting that you bring up "zoning" - He also recommends going to a
> single Amana 16 Seer/96% efficiency 4 ton system, with zoning - but I
> don't like the idea of that additional mechanics in the ductwork. It
> would be $8072 ($6672 plus $1400 for the zoning work).
> And he told me if I stayed with Trane and R22, I could use the same
> lineset I have. The other guy said I needed a new one going up the
> side of the house (that would look ugly). And the first guy charges
> $343 per system for R410 (the second guy says about $100). As far as
> R22 disappearing, if I go with a maintenance contract, wouldn't that
> be Coolray's problem (or whoever I choose)?
> Well, one more quote tomorrow for American Standard. That guy says it
> is the same as Trane, but in Atlanta all Trane parts are distributed
> by Home Depot, and he says they are a PITA. He handles American
> Standard so he doesn't have to deal with HD.
> Thanks.

>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 07:35:43 -0700, nooneh...@mail.com wrote:
>> >I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
>> >Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
>> >Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
>> >Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
>> >feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
>> >savings).
>> >Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
>> >2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
>> >The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
>> >from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
>> >He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
>> >get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
>> >problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
>> >The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
>> >upgrades, or add ons.
>> >Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
>> >What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A? Has anyone heard
>> >about problems with R410A? And will R22 be available for the
>> >foreseeable future?
>> >Thanks.
>> As far as zoning.........Im not totally thrilled with it. You already
>> have 2 separate systems yet you still need zoning? You might need to
>> address ductwork issues. Just my deal.....zoning is more parts to stop
>> working. It works when done right but then, so do properly installed
>> complete systems.
>> Price? I dunno. Your best bet is to get 3 quotes from know reputable
>> companies and dont be so hung up on the Trane brand. There are others.
>> Unfortunately, I feel the best choice is to go to R-410a. I dont
>> particularly like it but if R-22 disappears (like R-12 did) it will
>> become scarce and expensive. Right now, R-410a seems to be the only
>> "dumb" choice. :-)
>> Id also make sure my indoor coil was a TXV metering device.
>> I think matching a variable speed air handler with a 13 SEER unit in
>> the Atlanta area isnt the best of choice. You dont necessarily need 19
>> SEER or something but 13 is the bottom of the line. Also, when I last
>> checked my pricing, American Standard R-22 and R410a systems were the
>> same price (within a couple bucks).
>> Get another quote.
>> Bubba- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>When I referred to "zone", I meant the "upstairs" and "downstairs"
>zones. I have two A/C units outside with 2 furnaces in the attic
>(I'm on a slab). Sorry if I used the wrong terminology.
>I just got a second quote for the same systems, and it was $5080 and
>$4480 before any rebates.
>Interesting that you bring up "zoning" - He also recommends going to a
>single Amana 16 Seer/96% efficiency 4 ton system, with zoning - but I
>don't like the idea of that additional mechanics in the ductwork. It
>would be $8072 ($6672 plus $1400 for the zoning work).

>And he told me if I stayed with Trane and R22, I could use the same
>lineset I have. The other guy said I needed a new one going up the
>side of the house (that would look ugly). And the first guy charges
>$343 per system for R410 (the second guy says about $100). As far as
>R22 disappearing, if I go with a maintenance contract, wouldn't that
>be Coolray's problem (or whoever I choose)?

>Well, one more quote tomorrow for American Standard. That guy says it
>is the same as Trane, but in Atlanta all Trane parts are distributed
>by Home Depot, and he says they are a PITA. He handles American
>Standard so he doesn't have to deal with HD.
>Thanks.