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Need recommendation about new Trane system for Atlanta area. noonehere 07-05-2007
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Posted by on July 7, 2007, 12:24 am

> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:58:08 -0700, noonehere@mail.com wrote:
>
> >> > > Here is another clue. You can use the existing line set with the
> >> > > R-410a system too. All you need to do is blow it out with Nitrogen.
If
> >> > > it makes you feel better, you can flush it out with a $100 can of
> >> > > Calgon RX-11 flush. Just make sure it is the right diameter line
set.
> >>
> >> > OK, but I assume it has to have a particular diameter. I think it's
> >> > 7/8 " , but the first guy seemed to think it won't work with either a
> >> > new R22 or R410 system. He said regardless of which way I went, I
> >> > needed a new lineset up the side of the house. The second guy said
the
> >> > current lineset would be fine for R22.
> >>
> >> It's a personal preference, I like to run a new lineset with every new
> >> install. But as Bubba said, you can use the old one if it's cleaned and
> >> correctly sized.
> >>
> >
> >I think a new lineset is the best thing to do, I just wish they didn/t
> >have to run it up the side of the house, but they said they can't
> >snake it through were it is today. I just hate the look of those ugly
> >things when I drive around.
> >
> As Nooner said.......The line set can be hidden. Cut out the back side
> of a rectangular downspout and attach it. Wha-Laa!
> Sizing is most important. The installation directions will tell you
> what size the system needs.


Yep, or they make lineset covers. Or one can get creative and used a
matching vinyl siding corner. That way it blends in and you'll hardly even
see it.




Posted by Bob Pietrangelo on July 8, 2007, 4:57 am


>> Why is he willing to go all the way to a 16 SEER using Amana(Goodman)
>> but a 13 SEER Trane with variable speed is all thats needed (according
>> to him).
>> Here is a hint: The Amana equipment is much less expensive.
>
> I think it is more a matter of his preference. He is doing this on
> his own home now (he says). Maybe he thinks the idea of going from 2
> systems (up and down) to one with higher efficiency and cheaper would
> interest me. But I'd rather stay with 2 systems. My preference is
> Trane (or American Standard), just because I've had two Tranes running
> for 22.5 years, and those were "builder grade". There still running
> (now that the fan got loosened again), but I think they've served me
> enough.
>
>> Here is another clue. You can use the existing line set with the
>> R-410a system too. All you need to do is blow it out with Nitrogen. If
>> it makes you feel better, you can flush it out with a $100 can of
>> Calgon RX-11 flush. Just make sure it is the right diameter line set.
>
> OK, but I assume it has to have a particular diameter. I think it's
> 7/8 " , but the first guy seemed to think it won't work with either a
> new R22 or R410 system. He said regardless of which way I went, I
> needed a new lineset up the side of the house. The second guy said the
> current lineset would be fine for R22.
>
>
>> How would it be Coolray's problem? Its your system. If R-22 disappears
>> he can't "shit a can of it".
>
> I guess your right there, I just assumed since Coolray offered a
> lifetime guarantee on parts and labor, if the machine didn't cool any
> more, they'd have to do something (even if it required a conversion)
>
>
>> You're getting handed more shit on a platter than Ive heard in a
>> while. Basically, Trane and Am Std ARE the same. American Standard is
>> the Parent company. Cosmetic differences are mainly the differences.
>> Bubba- Hide quoted text -
>
> Yes, I know American Standard is the "same", I just wanted to be sure
> no one disagreed with what the dealer told me on the phone. The point
> about "Home Depot" was that according to the owner of one of the
> installers, HD "controlled" ALL "Trane" distibution in metro ATL,
> while "American Standard" did not have to go through them.


HD did not carry the Trane Parts. Home Depot supply was a different entity
from HD. I believe it used to be Apex Supply. They were one of the biggest
supply HVAC/P Supply houses in that area. HD bought them a few years back.
HD has sold that in the last few years, Trane parts are no longer bought
from a company that has HD in its name.



Posted by geothermaljones on July 9, 2007, 10:25 pm
Trane Eqpt is distributed by Trane (owned/affiliated) wholesalers in most of
the country...
American Standard (owns Trane & Identical TUD = AUD) is distributed by
independent wholesale houses, again in most parts...

If someone is trying to sell a 4 ton system to replace 4-1/2 to 5 tons, I'd
make sure he ran some calcs & proved it can handle the load.

I'd look into the variable speed units, they save a bunch just in blower
operation costs.
I'd also look at a heat pump system.
I realize Atlanta doesn't have the heat requirements of the Northern
reaches, but looking over the past bills will give you an idea of the $$
spent on gas heat over the years. A properly sized HP could well replace 95%
of your gas consumption.
I'd look at a in 16i HP... 13 is the bottom.
A TWE variable speed airhandler w/HP & Emergency Electric heat would
disconnect your gas lines completely.

The installer recommending the R-22, probably hasn't taken the time to get
trained on 410A issues. Old Dogs, etc...
If he were installing a box fan & fireplace in his own home, I wouldn't
follow his lead either.
His feelings about the cost/payback isn't your concern either. I'd look at
all available rebates, incentives, etc...
I might even ask the local Utility if they can run an energy audit with the
various eqpt options.
Their opinion would hold more water in my opinion.
Make sure to include gas & electric rate increases projected for future
operation costs.

Another option might be to replace the one faulty system now. monitor
operation over a year or two, then replace the 2nd later.

Then again, I might be wrong...

goodluck
geothermaljones
st.paul,mn.




> I live in metro Atlanta and I'm looking at replacing my 22 yr old
> Trane 2-zone system (both ACs and Furnaces). Got a quote today for
> Trane systems, and I wonder if it looks reasonable. They are for
> Trane 13 Seer systems, along with variable speed furnaces (he didn't
> feel the price differential to 15 Seer justified the potential
> savings).
>
> Thee units are 2TTR30324A/TUD060R9V3K4 (downstairs zone) and
> 2TTR3030A/TUD060R9V3K4 (upstairs zone).
>
> The price per zone were $5808 and $6571 . Then I get a $1000 rebate
> from the company (not from Trane - those expired in June).
>
> He also recommends the old R22 refrigerant instead of R410A. I can
> get the R410A for $343 additional per unit, but he has seen lots of
> problem with R410A due to excessive head pressure.
>
> The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, and wasn't pressing me for
> upgrades, or add ons.
>
> Do you think the quotes are reasonable?
>
> What about his recommendation for R22 vs. R410A? Has anyone heard
> about problems with R410A? And will R22 be available for the
> foreseeable future?
>
> Thanks.
>



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