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New American Standard not holding temperature noonehere 08-13-2007
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Posted by on August 13, 2007, 4:27 pm
I just got 2 new HVAC systems installed (upstairs and downstairs), and
I noticed during the day, the downstairs unit doesn't want to hold the
temperature. The other day, I had it set for 78, and it crept up to
82 (starting around 3PM), and didn't get back below 80 until 10PM.

Now it's hot here in Atlanta for the past few days, but these are new
units (2.0 ton downstairs and 2.5 upstairs). The upstairs unit seems
to maintain the temperature without a problem.

Today I set both units at 75 (cooler than usual - just a test to see
if they hold). The upstairs is still 75, the downstairs is 78.

Also, in the evenings (with the downstairs unit constantly running) I
sometimes feel a little warm (not terrible) sitting in the den, but
then feel a burst of cool air (like the unit just clicked on).

Any ideas what could be going on? Could the weather (97 outside right
now) be the culprit? (Though my upstairs maintains without a problem)
Or the thermostat? Or bad unit?

The installer says he is going to try some "expansion valve" at the
coils - does this make sense to anyone?

Thanks


Posted by on August 13, 2007, 4:39 pm
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:27:55 -0700, noonehere@mail.com wrote:

>I just got 2 new HVAC systems installed (upstairs and downstairs), and
>I noticed during the day, the downstairs unit doesn't want to hold the
>temperature. The other day, I had it set for 78, and it crept up to
>82 (starting around 3PM), and didn't get back below 80 until 10PM.
>
>Now it's hot here in Atlanta for the past few days, but these are new
>units (2.0 ton downstairs and 2.5 upstairs). The upstairs unit seems
>to maintain the temperature without a problem.
>
>Today I set both units at 75 (cooler than usual - just a test to see
>if they hold). The upstairs is still 75, the downstairs is 78.
>
>Also, in the evenings (with the downstairs unit constantly running) I
>sometimes feel a little warm (not terrible) sitting in the den, but
>then feel a burst of cool air (like the unit just clicked on).
>
>Any ideas what could be going on? Could the weather (97 outside right
>now) be the culprit? (Though my upstairs maintains without a problem)
>Or the thermostat? Or bad unit?
>
>The installer says he is going to try some "expansion valve" at the
>coils - does this make sense to anyone?
>
>Thanks

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Posted by udarrell on August 13, 2007, 5:06 pm
noonehere@mail.com wrote:

>I just got 2 new HVAC systems installed (upstairs and downstairs), and
>I noticed during the day, the downstairs unit doesn't want to hold the
>temperature. The other day, I had it set for 78, and it crept up to
>82 (starting around 3PM), and didn't get back below 80 until 10PM.
>
>Now it's hot here in Atlanta for the past few days, but these are new
>units (2.0 ton downstairs and 2.5 upstairs). The upstairs unit seems
>to maintain the temperature without a problem.
>
>Today I set both units at 75 (cooler than usual - just a test to see
>if they hold). The upstairs is still 75, the downstairs is 78.
>
>Also, in the evenings (with the downstairs unit constantly running) I
>sometimes feel a little warm (not terrible) sitting in the den, but
>then feel a burst of cool air (like the unit just clicked on).
>
>Any ideas what could be going on? Could the weather (97 outside right
>now) be the culprit? (Though my upstairs maintains without a problem)
>Or the thermostat? Or bad unit?
>
>The installer says he is going to try some "expansion valve" at the
>coils - does this make sense to anyone? Thanks
>
>
This is a reasoned guess, ha.
The downstairs unit id not working properly, which could be for many
reasons.

If he is installing TXV metering devices on the E-Coils, that's what
they should have to begin with.
Do a little reading & thinking, also take some temps indoors & outdoors
at the condenser.
Also, get a percent humidity gauge.

Here are two of the page links:
First the Ductwork Design & functioning -
http://www.udarrell.com/proper_cfm_btuh_duct_sizing_air_conditioning_systems.html


After the ductwork & airflow is correct -
http://www.udarrell.com/ac-trouble-shooting-superheat-subcooling.html
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Posted by Zephyr on August 14, 2007, 12:10 am
What is a [humidity gauge?]

Could you mean a sling psychrometer?

Zyp

> noonehere@mail.com wrote:
>
>>I just got 2 new HVAC systems installed (upstairs and downstairs), and
>>I noticed during the day, the downstairs unit doesn't want to hold the
>>temperature. The other day, I had it set for 78, and it crept up to
>>82 (starting around 3PM), and didn't get back below 80 until 10PM.
>>
>>Now it's hot here in Atlanta for the past few days, but these are new
>>units (2.0 ton downstairs and 2.5 upstairs). The upstairs unit seems
>>to maintain the temperature without a problem.
>>
>>Today I set both units at 75 (cooler than usual - just a test to see
>>if they hold). The upstairs is still 75, the downstairs is 78.
>>
>>Also, in the evenings (with the downstairs unit constantly running) I
>>sometimes feel a little warm (not terrible) sitting in the den, but
>>then feel a burst of cool air (like the unit just clicked on).
>>
>>Any ideas what could be going on? Could the weather (97 outside right
>>now) be the culprit? (Though my upstairs maintains without a problem)
>>Or the thermostat? Or bad unit?
>>
>>The installer says he is going to try some "expansion valve" at the
>>coils - does this make sense to anyone? Thanks
>>
> This is a reasoned guess, ha.
> The downstairs unit id not working properly, which could be for many
> reasons.
>
> If he is installing TXV metering devices on the E-Coils, that's what they
> should have to begin with.
> Do a little reading & thinking, also take some temps indoors & outdoors at
> the condenser.
> Also, get a percent humidity gauge.
>
> Here are two of the page links:
> First the Ductwork Design & functioning -
>
http://www.udarrell.com/proper_cfm_btuh_duct_sizing_air_conditioning_systems.html
>
> After the ductwork & airflow is correct -
> http://www.udarrell.com/ac-trouble-shooting-superheat-subcooling.html
> udarrell
>
> --
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> ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
>
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> Shooting, Angus Cattle, etc.)
>
>
http://www.udarrell.com/principled_adjudication_disputes_administration_justice.html
>
> http://www.udarrell.com/recognizing_real_enemies.html
>
> http://jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
> http://www.antiwar.com/ ***
>
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Posted by udarrell on August 14, 2007, 9:31 am
Zephyr wrote:

>What is a [humidity gauge?]
>Could you mean a sling psychrometer?
>Zyp
>
>
>
Zyp, you know what it is, the proper name is hygrometer which measures
the absolute or in this case the Relative Humidity in the air at that
temperature.
I used a Bacharach sling psychrometer to measure the Wet Bulb
temperature drop from the Dry Bulb temp, which provided me with much
needed info including the Relative Humidity. I figured the average
person would better understand what a Relative Humidity gauge was,
rather than using its technical name.
http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditioning-contractors-seer-eer-sensible-latent-heat.html

udarrell

>>noonehere@mail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I just got 2 new HVAC systems installed (upstairs and downstairs), and
>>>I noticed during the day, the downstairs unit doesn't want to hold the
>>>temperature. The other day, I had it set for 78, and it crept up to
>>>82 (starting around 3PM), and didn't get back below 80 until 10PM.
>>>
>>>Now it's hot here in Atlanta for the past few days, but these are new
>>>units (2.0 ton downstairs and 2.5 upstairs). The upstairs unit seems
>>>to maintain the temperature without a problem.
>>>
>>>Today I set both units at 75 (cooler than usual - just a test to see
>>>if they hold). The upstairs is still 75, the downstairs is 78.
>>>
>>>Also, in the evenings (with the downstairs unit constantly running) I
>>>sometimes feel a little warm (not terrible) sitting in the den, but
>>>then feel a burst of cool air (like the unit just clicked on).
>>>
>>>Any ideas what could be going on? Could the weather (97 outside right
>>>now) be the culprit? (Though my upstairs maintains without a problem)
>>>Or the thermostat? Or bad unit?
>>>
>>>The installer says he is going to try some "expansion valve" at the
>>>coils - does this make sense to anyone? Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>This is a reasoned guess, ha.
>>The downstairs unit is not working properly, which could be for many
>>reasons.
>>
>>If he is installing TXV metering devices on the E-Coils, that's what they
>>should have to begin with.
>>Do a little reading & thinking, also take some temps indoors & outdoors at
>>the condenser.
>>Also, get a percent humidity gauge, (an hygrometer).
>>
>>Here are two of the page links:
>>First the Ductwork Design & functioning -
>>http://www.udarrell.com/proper_cfm_btuh_duct_sizing_air_conditioning_systems.html
>>
>>After the ductwork & airflow is correct -
>>http://www.udarrell.com/ac-trouble-shooting-superheat-subcooling.html
>>udarrell
>>
>>--
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>>ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
>>
>>http://www.udarrell.com/
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>>Shooting, Angus Cattle, etc.)
>>
>>http://www.udarrell.com/principled_adjudication_disputes_administration_justice.html
>>
>>http://www.udarrell.com/recognizing_real_enemies.html
>>
>>http://jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
>>http://www.antiwar.com/ ***
>>
>>Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to Accept!
>>
>>


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