New Central A/C questions??

Posted by Bluto on May 12, 2007, 8:27 pm

Hello all,

I had a new split system American standard allegiance central air
conditioner installed two days ago. I had to put a stop payment
on the check because of some very serious concerns about their
installation. I have a couple of questions if someone experienced
would be so kind as to reply. Just some minor questions:

1) Is it normal for condenstation to form on the outside of the
furnace plenum with the a/c on? The evaporator coil is on top
of the furnace within the plenum.

2) How can I determine if my system has a LIQUID LINE FILTER DRIER
installed? I checked the copper lines from the a/c base outside all
the way to where it enters the plenum to the evaporator coil and I
don't see one. Could it be within the plenum or out a/c unit?

Thanks for your time!

PS: The installation of my new unit is one from hell!

Posted by on May 12, 2007, 8:38 pm

>Hello all,
>I had a new split system American standard allegiance central air
>conditioner installed two days ago. I had to put a stop payment
>on the check because of some very serious concerns about their
>installation. I have a couple of questions if someone experienced
>would be so kind as to reply. Just some minor questions:
>1) Is it normal for condenstation to form on the outside of the
>furnace plenum with the a/c on? The evaporator coil is on top
>of the furnace within the plenum.

Nope.

>2) How can I determine if my system has a LIQUID LINE FILTER DRIER
>installed? I checked the copper lines from the a/c base outside all
>the way to where it enters the plenum to the evaporator coil and I
>don't see one. Could it be within the plenum or out a/c unit?

Could be.

>Thanks for your time!
>PS: The installation of my new unit is one from hell!

Call you local Building Inspectors Office and request that it
be inspected. PRIOR to paying the contractor.

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Posted by Bob Pietrangelo on May 12, 2007, 9:50 pm

> I had a new split system American standard allegiance central air
> conditioner installed two days ago. I had to put a stop payment
> on the check because of some very serious concerns about their
> installation. I have a couple of questions if someone experienced
> would be so kind as to reply. Just some minor questions:

What are your concerns to put a stop payment onn the check. If it is
beacause of the two questions you asked below, you are a thief. IF not
please state what were the real reasons of your stop check. Why did you
even give them a check if your were dissatisfied.

> 1) Is it normal for condenstation to form on the outside of the
> furnace plenum with the a/c on? The evaporator coil is on top
> of the furnace within the plenum.

If the temperature of your plenum is below the deewpoint yes it will sweat.

> 2) How can I determine if my system has a LIQUID LINE FILTER DRIER
> installed? I checked the copper lines from the a/c base outside all
> the way to where it enters the plenum to the evaporator coil and I
> don't see one. Could it be within the plenum or out a/c unit?

There is one inside the condenser. Not a very good one, but there is one
there.

> Thanks for your time!
> PS: The installation of my new unit is one from hell!

Did you go for the best price?

Posted by Geoman on May 12, 2007, 11:06 pm

You may have committed a felony by stopping payment on the check. The bank
will do this anytime you call them, but in our State if you stop payment on
a check it better be due to fraud or theft. Very few are aware that a check
is considered that you accepted the completed work and it is viewed by the
courts the same as cash, therefore, by cancelling your check, and if the
contractor knows the law, you have to explain to the court why you stole
'money' from this contractor, (remember, the court views a check the same as
cash). In Ohio if you steal cash or bounce a check over $50 it's a felony
with possible jail time, the same is true concerning cancelled checks. It's
like giving the contractor money/cash then without his knowledge you take
back/steal the money. If this causes the contractor to experience penalties
and judgments by creditors he can sue you for damages and he will probably
win. If you don't believe me, call your legal representative or your local
court and ask them, or go to the library and look up your States laws
concerning this. I got this information the first year I was in business by
my lawyer friend who is now a judge for the county.

Posted by Bluto on May 13, 2007, 9:02 am

>You may have committed a felony by stopping payment on the check. The bank
>will do this anytime you call them, but in our State if you stop payment on
>a check it better be due to fraud or theft. Very few are aware that a check
>is considered that you accepted the completed work and it is viewed by the
>courts the same as cash, therefore, by cancelling your check, and if the
>contractor knows the law, you have to explain to the court why you stole
>'money' from this contractor, (remember, the court views a check the same as
>cash). In Ohio if you steal cash or bounce a check over $50 it's a felony
>with possible jail time, the same is true concerning cancelled checks. It's
>like giving the contractor money/cash then without his knowledge you take
>back/steal the money. If this causes the contractor to experience penalties
>and judgments by creditors he can sue you for damages and he will probably
>win. If you don't believe me, call your legal representative or your local
>court and ask them, or go to the library and look up your States laws
>concerning this. I got this information the first year I was in business by
>my lawyer friend who is now a judge for the county.

There must be a lot of felons around. I see on TV court shows people
who stopped payment on checks all the time for shoddy repair work.
Maybe it IS fraud when what you paid for isn't properly installed and
SAFE! If the contractor KNOWS the law then he should know installing
something improper and unsafe could have VERY serious consequences.
For instance, the aluminum duct tape that is holding my plenum
together failing and spewing carbon monoxide in my house. Your lawyer
friend/judge sounds like a joke to me, and you do too. If the job is
done proper then there is no worry about stopped payments on checks. I
think you get that check and run! I'm glad you're in Ohio!

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