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Oil Boiler runs...then shuts off. Help! K_man 10-30-2006
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Posted by DIMwit on October 30, 2006, 10:01 pm


> Thanks for all the input. Tonight I hit reset and it kept running. So
> maybe the new filter and HOT treatment have kicked in. But, lets see
> how long it lasts. Maybe an extra filter is a good idea.
>
> Since it was running good tonight I turned on the heat. After about 10
> minutes it starts to smoke a little. Though it is a small stream of
> smoke, it is enough tp stink up the utility room, so needs to be
> adressed.
> It doesn't run long enough to smoke when heating just hot water ,but
> running the heat will bring on the smoke.
>
>>From what i've gleened, it can be the air intake adjustment or possibly
> a cracked
> heat element. I'm hoping it is the air intake adjustment.
>
> The last time the oil tech was working on it , he was moving the air
> intake thing until the chimney was burning clean (his assistant would
> tell him when the smoke was light)
> So I'm not sure if this is correct way to adjust this or not?
>
> If this were adjusted wrong is it possible for smoke the back up and
> appear to be coming from inside the unit.?
>
> I would so rather pay the guy and not have to bother, but I've been
> forced to do some simple things out of necessity. I change filters ( I
> do have the A-1-25 canister) . Replace nozzles and clean the ceramic
> and electrodes. All with power off.
>
> Thanks again!
>
sounds like your oil burner techs were the old AAMCO transmission TV
commercial chimps.
what'd his assistant do look outside at the chimney belching smoke? No
Bacararach combustion analyzer?

good luck





Posted by Bubba on October 30, 2006, 10:20 pm
wrote:

>Thanks for all the input. Tonight I hit reset and it kept running. So
>maybe the new filter and HOT treatment have kicked in. But, lets see
>how long it lasts. Maybe an extra filter is a good idea.
>
>Since it was running good tonight I turned on the heat. After about 10
>minutes it starts to smoke a little. Though it is a small stream of
>smoke, it is enough tp stink up the utility room, so needs to be
>adressed.
>It doesn't run long enough to smoke when heating just hot water ,but
>running the heat will bring on the smoke.
>
>>From what i've gleened, it can be the air intake adjustment or possibly
>a cracked
>heat element. I'm hoping it is the air intake adjustment.
>
>The last time the oil tech was working on it , he was moving the air
>intake thing until the chimney was burning clean (his assistant would
>tell him when the smoke was light)
>So I'm not sure if this is correct way to adjust this or not?
>
>If this were adjusted wrong is it possible for smoke the back up and
>appear to be coming from inside the unit.?
>
>I would so rather pay the guy and not have to bother, but I've been
>forced to do some simple things out of necessity. I change filters ( I
>do have the A-1-25 canister) . Replace nozzles and clean the ceramic
>and electrodes. All with power off.
>
>Thanks again!

Okay, lets try this once again for all you "kids" out there that think
they can play with their own oil furnace.
First off, get those bozo's out of your house playing with your
furnace.
Next, you will need to do some searching and make some calls.
You are looking for an oil service company that has a few service
tools.
You need one with a digital combustion efficiency analyzer.
They also need to be able to read smoke.
They also need to be able to read draft
They also need to be able to read stack temp and ambient temp.
Then after they get all that info they need to be able to analyze it
all and decide what plan of action it takes to make your furnace burn
efficiently and safely.
Hint: Eyeballing the flame dont do chit and can cost you hundreds of
dollars in excess fuel burnt.
That should get you a start.
Bubba

Posted by K_man on October 31, 2006, 4:19 pm

> You are looking for an oil service company that has a few service
> tools.
> You need one with a digital combustion efficiency analyzer.
> They also need to be able to read smoke.
> They also need to be able to read draft
> They also need to be able to read stack temp and ambient temp.
> Then after they get all that info they need to be able to analyze it
> all and decide what plan of action it takes to make your furnace burn
> efficiently and safely.
> Hint: Eyeballing the flame dont do chit and can cost you hundreds of
> dollars in excess fuel burnt.
> That should get you a start.
> Bubba

Thanks Bubba, I will make a note of this.

I will say that I don't like bother the guys while they work,
but I guess I need to make sure they are properly equipped.
It is hard to find anyone to work on them here.


Posted by Bubba on October 31, 2006, 4:38 pm
wrote:

>
>> You are looking for an oil service company that has a few service
>> tools.
>> You need one with a digital combustion efficiency analyzer.
>> They also need to be able to read smoke.
>> They also need to be able to read draft
>> They also need to be able to read stack temp and ambient temp.
>> Then after they get all that info they need to be able to analyze it
>> all and decide what plan of action it takes to make your furnace burn
>> efficiently and safely.
>> Hint: Eyeballing the flame dont do chit and can cost you hundreds of
>> dollars in excess fuel burnt.
>> That should get you a start.
>> Bubba
>
>Thanks Bubba, I will make a note of this.
>
>I will say that I don't like bother the guys while they work,
>but I guess I need to make sure they are properly equipped.
>It is hard to find anyone to work on them here.

You dont need to bother anyone. What you need to do is find out the
techs comprehension and tool availability BEFORE they ever show up.
Bubba

Posted by AKS on October 31, 2006, 4:24 pm
That is very nice advice "Buba" but tell me
what the old timers did when they did not
have all those nice digital gadgets, it seems to me
that are far in between good techs. left out there
good luck those people who will be needing them
Dido

> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for all the input. Tonight I hit reset and it kept running. So
>>maybe the new filter and HOT treatment have kicked in. But, lets see
>>how long it lasts. Maybe an extra filter is a good idea.
>>
>>Since it was running good tonight I turned on the heat. After about 10
>>minutes it starts to smoke a little. Though it is a small stream of
>>smoke, it is enough tp stink up the utility room, so needs to be
>>adressed.
>>It doesn't run long enough to smoke when heating just hot water ,but
>>running the heat will bring on the smoke.
>>
>>>From what i've gleened, it can be the air intake adjustment or possibly
>>a cracked
>>heat element. I'm hoping it is the air intake adjustment.
>>
>>The last time the oil tech was working on it , he was moving the air
>>intake thing until the chimney was burning clean (his assistant would
>>tell him when the smoke was light)
>>So I'm not sure if this is correct way to adjust this or not?
>>
>>If this were adjusted wrong is it possible for smoke the back up and
>>appear to be coming from inside the unit.?
>>
>>I would so rather pay the guy and not have to bother, but I've been
>>forced to do some simple things out of necessity. I change filters ( I
>>do have the A-1-25 canister) . Replace nozzles and clean the ceramic
>>and electrodes. All with power off.
>>
>>Thanks again!
>
> Okay, lets try this once again for all you "kids" out there that think
> they can play with their own oil furnace.
> First off, get those bozo's out of your house playing with your
> furnace.
> Next, you will need to do some searching and make some calls.
> You are looking for an oil service company that has a few service
> tools.
> You need one with a digital combustion efficiency analyzer.
> They also need to be able to read smoke.
> They also need to be able to read draft
> They also need to be able to read stack temp and ambient temp.
> Then after they get all that info they need to be able to analyze it
> all and decide what plan of action it takes to make your furnace burn
> efficiently and safely.
> Hint: Eyeballing the flame dont do chit and can cost you hundreds of
> dollars in excess fuel burnt.
> That should get you a start.
> Bubba



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