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Oil smell from furnace (when fan is on but flame out, I think) Restaurant Guy 12-10-2006
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Posted by AKS on December 10, 2006, 10:54 am
I will say it again I am not HVAC person
However from mechanical point view it seems
that you are having some oil residue that it needs to
be burn out, you also may have draft problem
check your smoke stock make sure you are not getting
down flow on shut down, does your chimney is adjusted
for proper draft, any chance that your furnace creating
vacuum in your basement, does your ignition system
shut off before the oil, defective pump shut-off valve,
the air entrapped in nozzle due to restriction in supply line
oil expansion in the nozzle line assy. due to radiated heat
at shut down, make sure that you have makeup air at
location of furnace, your chimney temperature
perhaps some what low for the draft require or needed,
Good luck from Dido



>
> We've had an oil smell coming through our vents for about a year. Our
> local heating service company has come out twice and found nothing.
> Neither the smoke detectors nor the carbon monoxide detector protest
> and we haven't had any apparent health effets. Yesterday I realized
> that the smell only comes through only after the temperature exceeds
> the setting on the thermostat and contines for a while until the fan
> stops blowing. I don't know if it works this way but I'm guessing that
> the fan keeps going for a little while after the flame is out. If so,
> that seems to be when the oil smell occurs.
>
> I would appreciate your advice/thoughts.
>



Posted by Bubba on December 10, 2006, 12:14 pm

>I will say it again I am not HVAC person

Who'd a thunk?

>However from mechanical point view it seems
>that you are having some oil residue that it needs to
>be burn out,

and you think Oil, could be doing that?

> you also may have draft problem
>check your smoke stock make sure you are not getting
>down flow on shut down,

smoke stock? Is he stocking cigars now?

>does your chimney is adjusted
>for proper draft,

Yes, he had the bricks rotated for proper draft just the other day.

> any chance that your furnace creating
>vacuum in your basement,

Yeah, they all do that. I think this brand furnace is a "Hoover".

> does your ignition system
>shut off before the oil,

Yeah, they all do that too.

> defective pump shut-off valve,

That would be called an "oil pump"

>the air entrapped in nozzle due to restriction in supply line
>oil expansion in the nozzle line assy. due to radiated heat
>at shut down

Im going to need that one in English please.

>, make sure that you have makeup air at
>location of furnace,

He just ordered a box of that yesterday

> your chimney temperature
>perhaps some what low for the draft require or needed,

You have a draft versus temperature chart now?
This one I gotta see
Bubba

> Good luck from Dido
>
>
>
>>
>> We've had an oil smell coming through our vents for about a year. Our
>> local heating service company has come out twice and found nothing.
>> Neither the smoke detectors nor the carbon monoxide detector protest
>> and we haven't had any apparent health effets. Yesterday I realized
>> that the smell only comes through only after the temperature exceeds
>> the setting on the thermostat and contines for a while until the fan
>> stops blowing. I don't know if it works this way but I'm guessing that
>> the fan keeps going for a little while after the flame is out. If so,
>> that seems to be when the oil smell occurs.
>>
>> I would appreciate your advice/thoughts.
>>
>

Posted by Steve Scott on December 10, 2006, 12:21 pm
Dido, why would one of the problems you outline below cause an oil
smell to come through the registers?


>I will say it again I am not HVAC person
>However from mechanical point view it seems
>that you are having some oil residue that it needs to
>be burn out, you also may have draft problem
>check your smoke stock make sure you are not getting
>down flow on shut down, does your chimney is adjusted
>for proper draft, any chance that your furnace creating
>vacuum in your basement, does your ignition system
>shut off before the oil, defective pump shut-off valve,
>the air entrapped in nozzle due to restriction in supply line
>oil expansion in the nozzle line assy. due to radiated heat
>at shut down, make sure that you have makeup air at
>location of furnace, your chimney temperature
>perhaps some what low for the draft require or needed,
> Good luck from Dido
>
>
>
>>
>> We've had an oil smell coming through our vents for about a year. Our
>> local heating service company has come out twice and found nothing.
>> Neither the smoke detectors nor the carbon monoxide detector protest
>> and we haven't had any apparent health effets. Yesterday I realized
>> that the smell only comes through only after the temperature exceeds
>> the setting on the thermostat and contines for a while until the fan
>> stops blowing. I don't know if it works this way but I'm guessing that
>> the fan keeps going for a little while after the flame is out. If so,
>> that seems to be when the oil smell occurs.
>>
>> I would appreciate your advice/thoughts.
>>
>


--
'Humankind cannot bear very much
reality.' - T.S. Eliot





Posted by jamesgangnc on December 11, 2006, 8:05 am
I'm think he is suspecting that once the burners stop the furnace is
drawing some exhaust back into the house. If the furnace is inside the
house and there is a leak in the distribution side outside the
conditioned space the furnace could be pulling make up air back through
the exhaust. It would fit the conditions described.

Steve Scott wrote:
> Dido, why would one of the problems you outline below cause an oil
> smell to come through the registers?
>
>
> >I will say it again I am not HVAC person
> >However from mechanical point view it seems
> >that you are having some oil residue that it needs to
> >be burn out, you also may have draft problem
> >check your smoke stock make sure you are not getting
> >down flow on shut down, does your chimney is adjusted
> >for proper draft, any chance that your furnace creating
> >vacuum in your basement, does your ignition system
> >shut off before the oil, defective pump shut-off valve,
> >the air entrapped in nozzle due to restriction in supply line
> >oil expansion in the nozzle line assy. due to radiated heat
> >at shut down, make sure that you have makeup air at
> >location of furnace, your chimney temperature
> >perhaps some what low for the draft require or needed,
> > Good luck from Dido
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> We've had an oil smell coming through our vents for about a year. Our
> >> local heating service company has come out twice and found nothing.
> >> Neither the smoke detectors nor the carbon monoxide detector protest
> >> and we haven't had any apparent health effets. Yesterday I realized
> >> that the smell only comes through only after the temperature exceeds
> >> the setting on the thermostat and contines for a while until the fan
> >> stops blowing. I don't know if it works this way but I'm guessing that
> >> the fan keeps going for a little while after the flame is out. If so,
> >> that seems to be when the oil smell occurs.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate your advice/thoughts.
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> 'Humankind cannot bear very much
> reality.' - T.S. Eliot


Posted by Restaurant Guy on December 11, 2006, 9:37 am
Thanks all for the replies. Furnace repair is over my head, for sure.
I've decided to call a different service company (and hand them a
summary of your responses.) I'll report back here for your interest on
what they say/find/do. Wish me luck. I don't want to have to buy a new
furnace.

Brian

jamesgangnc wrote:
> I'm think he is suspecting that once the burners stop the furnace is
> drawing some exhaust back into the house. If the furnace is inside the
> house and there is a leak in the distribution side outside the
> conditioned space the furnace could be pulling make up air back through
> the exhaust. It would fit the conditions described.
>
> Steve Scott wrote:
> > Dido, why would one of the problems you outline below cause an oil
> > smell to come through the registers?
> >
> >
> > >I will say it again I am not HVAC person
> > >However from mechanical point view it seems
> > >that you are having some oil residue that it needs to
> > >be burn out, you also may have draft problem
> > >check your smoke stock make sure you are not getting
> > >down flow on shut down, does your chimney is adjusted
> > >for proper draft, any chance that your furnace creating
> > >vacuum in your basement, does your ignition system
> > >shut off before the oil, defective pump shut-off valve,
> > >the air entrapped in nozzle due to restriction in supply line
> > >oil expansion in the nozzle line assy. due to radiated heat
> > >at shut down, make sure that you have makeup air at
> > >location of furnace, your chimney temperature
> > >perhaps some what low for the draft require or needed,
> > > Good luck from Dido
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> We've had an oil smell coming through our vents for about a year. Our
> > >> local heating service company has come out twice and found nothing.
> > >> Neither the smoke detectors nor the carbon monoxide detector protest
> > >> and we haven't had any apparent health effets. Yesterday I realized
> > >> that the smell only comes through only after the temperature exceeds
> > >> the setting on the thermostat and contines for a while until the fan
> > >> stops blowing. I don't know if it works this way but I'm guessing that
> > >> the fan keeps going for a little while after the flame is out. If so,
> > >> that seems to be when the oil smell occurs.
> > >>
> > >> I would appreciate your advice/thoughts.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 'Humankind cannot bear very much
> > reality.' - T.S. Eliot


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