Payne 13 AC unit estimate

Posted by TNSTAAFL on July 14, 2009, 10:23 am

Hi,

I have an estimate from a local company (they're fair and reputable based on
past work they've done for me) to replace my current AC unit (inside and
outside). They've offered several options - I'm interested in the lower
priced option - a Payne 13 system - the service guy tells me that the
important components and technology is essentially the same as the more
expensive Carrier Comfort 13 system they also quoted - and that the Payne
brand is just Carrier's alternate (less expensive) brand.

Even though the local company has been fair AFAIK, for this kind of money I
need to get a second opinion - thinking of getting a competitive quote.

The quote I have is for parts and labor to replace all of the inside and
outside components, including a new disconnect and whip and thermostat - no
ductwork - about $5,500 - he says that I could go from the 3 ton they've
quoted to a 3 1 ton for another $300 - is this quote in the ballpark for
North Texas? THANKS!

Posted by TNSTAAFL on July 14, 2009, 12:05 pm

Additional information - the inside unit is in a utilities closet on the
ground floor level - NOT in the attic - an updraft unit, I think it's
called. Also, the other assumption is that the existing tubing will be OK
for the new unit.

Also, I called another vendor I found from the Carrier site for a second
over-the-phone opinion - gave them the same specifics - a Payne 13 unit, all
new inside and outside including all parts and labor and a new disconnect,
whip, and thermostat, etc. - their price was $4,250.

Thanks for any feedback!

> Hi,
> I have an estimate from a local company (they're fair and reputable based
> on past work they've done for me) to replace my current AC unit (inside
> and outside). They've offered several options - I'm interested in the
> lower priced option - a Payne 13 system - the service guy tells me that
> the important components and technology is essentially the same as the
> more expensive Carrier Comfort 13 system they also quoted - and that the
> Payne brand is just Carrier's alternate (less expensive) brand.
> Even though the local company has been fair AFAIK, for this kind of money
> I need to get a second opinion - thinking of getting a competitive quote.
> The quote I have is for parts and labor to replace all of the inside and
> outside components, including a new disconnect and whip and thermostat -
> no ductwork - about $5,500 - he says that I could go from the 3 ton
> they've quoted to a 3 1 ton for another $300 - is this quote in the
> ballpark for North Texas? THANKS!
>

Posted by on July 14, 2009, 12:29 pm

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:05:42 -0500, "TNSTAAFL"

>Additional information - the inside unit is in a utilities closet on the
>ground floor level - NOT in the attic - an updraft unit, I think it's
>called. Also, the other assumption is that the existing tubing will be OK
>for the new unit.
>Also, I called another vendor I found from the Carrier site for a second
>over-the-phone opinion - gave them the same specifics - a Payne 13 unit, all
>new inside and outside including all parts and labor and a new disconnect,
>whip, and thermostat, etc. - their price was $4,250.
>Thanks for any feedback!

Go for the low-bidder over the phone ! Fuck that guy who did
good fair work for you before !

>> Hi,
>> I have an estimate from a local company (they're fair and reputable based
>> on past work they've done for me) to replace my current AC unit (inside
>> and outside). They've offered several options - I'm interested in the
>> lower priced option - a Payne 13 system - the service guy tells me that
>> the important components and technology is essentially the same as the
>> more expensive Carrier Comfort 13 system they also quoted - and that the
>> Payne brand is just Carrier's alternate (less expensive) brand.
>> Even though the local company has been fair AFAIK, for this kind of money
>> I need to get a second opinion - thinking of getting a competitive quote.
>> The quote I have is for parts and labor to replace all of the inside and
>> outside components, including a new disconnect and whip and thermostat -
>> no ductwork - about $5,500 - he says that I could go from the 3 ton
>> they've quoted to a 3 1 ton for another $300 - is this quote in the
>> ballpark for North Texas? THANKS!
>>

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Posted by TNSTAAFL on July 14, 2009, 2:02 pm

Hey man, I'm just trying to get an idea of whether the guy who did work for
me before was still playing fair with me - for $5K, I'm not taking it
blindly without checking around - just to be sure - it's a lot of money.
I'd certainly give the guy I've been using an opportunity to sharpen his
pencil - but $1,250 is $1,250 - competition and free enterprise is what this
country is all about - if two guys are in business, essentially offering the
same product, and one guy is OK with less profit, that's OK with me, too.

Like buying a car - two different dealers selling the same car - if warranty
work is guaranteed by the manufacturer, why pay one dealer $1,250 more than
I can get it from another dealer for the same car ?

> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:05:42 -0500, "TNSTAAFL"

>>Additional information - the inside unit is in a utilities closet on the
>>ground floor level - NOT in the attic - an updraft unit, I think it's
>>called. Also, the other assumption is that the existing tubing will be OK
>>for the new unit.
>>Also, I called another vendor I found from the Carrier site for a second
>>over-the-phone opinion - gave them the same specifics - a Payne 13 unit,
>>all
>>new inside and outside including all parts and labor and a new disconnect,
>>whip, and thermostat, etc. - their price was $4,250.
>>Thanks for any feedback!

> Go for the low-bidder over the phone ! Fuck that guy who did
> good fair work for you before !

>>> Hi,
>>> I have an estimate from a local company (they're fair and reputable
>>> based
>>> on past work they've done for me) to replace my current AC unit (inside
>>> and outside). They've offered several options - I'm interested in the
>>> lower priced option - a Payne 13 system - the service guy tells me that
>>> the important components and technology is essentially the same as the
>>> more expensive Carrier Comfort 13 system they also quoted - and that the
>>> Payne brand is just Carrier's alternate (less expensive) brand.
>>> Even though the local company has been fair AFAIK, for this kind of
>>> money
>>> I need to get a second opinion - thinking of getting a competitive
>>> quote.
>>> The quote I have is for parts and labor to replace all of the inside and
>>> outside components, including a new disconnect and whip and thermostat -
>>> no ductwork - about $5,500 - he says that I could go from the 3 ton
>>> they've quoted to a 3 1 ton for another $300 - is this quote in the
>>> ballpark for North Texas? THANKS!

> --
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm

Posted by Noon-Air on July 14, 2009, 3:29 pm

> Additional information - the inside unit is in a utilities closet on the
> ground floor level - NOT in the attic - an updraft unit, I think it's
> called. Also, the other assumption is that the existing tubing will be OK
> for the new unit.
> Also, I called another vendor I found from the Carrier site for a second
> over-the-phone opinion - gave them the same specifics - a Payne 13 unit,
> all new inside and outside including all parts and labor and a new
> disconnect, whip, and thermostat, etc. - their price was $4,250.
> Thanks for any feedback!

3 ton systems replacements can run the full range from $4100 up to $10,000
and more (not including ductwork).

Payne is Carriers cheap builder grade junk... suitable for landlords and
cheapskates.

Personally, I wouldn't have *any* Carrier products in my home....I have
worked on too many of them.

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