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Ping Jake power lines down - non HVAC related =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= 07-20-2006
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 23, 2006, 10:47 pm
What do you suggest, for staggering the loads? Electric clothes dryers
in the middle of the night, and what else?

I remember from some where that some folks in Californication have a
remote switch on their residential AC so that the power co can shut em
down for a while, on a rotating schedule. So they don't overload the
system.

What's to be done?

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

Sorry for the late reply.... it's been hot in Indiana too... and the
systems don't like 110% load too much.

Much like the systems you guys install, HV systems are 'usually'
protected against melt down... unless some moron decides to override
the
safeties and take their chances.

The down-and-dirty is we don't have enough generation, and we don't
have
transmission to handle high peaks anymore. That went out the window
more than 5 years ago. While systems used to be designed for 20% over
rated capacity... it just doesn't happen these days.

I saw the ISO reports on NY. No lines 'melted'... as far as anyone can
tell. Subs tripped... then reclosed... then tripped again until they
gave up.

Even if the fault was a under-voltage condition, utilities are
required
(by due-diligence) to check the entire secondary system before
re-energizing. This takes some time... as you might imagine.

Ron is right... utilities know very well what their load profiles look
like. They go to great lengths to ask customers to 'stagger' their
loading of the system. People don't listen... and then they're out of
juice.

The 'system' will protect itself... above all other factors.

We don't have enough capacity anymore, and people are going to have to
learn to adjust.

Jake



Posted by PrecisionMachinisT on July 24, 2006, 12:55 am

> What do you suggest, for staggering the loads? Electric clothes dryers
> in the middle of the night, and what else?
>
> I remember from some where that some folks in Californication have a
> remote switch on their residential AC so that the power co can shut em
> down for a while, on a rotating schedule. So they don't overload the
> system.
>
> What's to be done?
>

Nothing for you to do, so far as I'm concerned.


--

SVL




Posted by =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on July 24, 2006, 8:58 pm
Stormin Mormon posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

> What's to be done?
>
In your case turn the computer off and shut up. We'll call you went the crises
is over. 10-4?
--
Tekkie

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