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Problem replacing blower control board Bob 10-20-2007
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Posted by on October 21, 2007, 10:44 am
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:34:24 -0700, "Simon Schnizzard"

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>>
>> I can smell 'em a mile away.
>>
>
>I smell bullshit.

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Posted by Zyp on October 20, 2007, 4:55 pm
Bob wrote:
> Bubba wrote:
>
>>> The control board part was HH84AA005 is obsolete, the Carrier
>>> replacement is HH84AA021. I also replaced the tranformer(scorched by
>>> the flames) and the relay on the inducer board(corroded contacts
>>> from the water dripping down).
>>
>> You unsoldered and resoldered the relay on the inducer board?
>> What an idiot.
>
> No, I removed the defective replay and replaced it with a new one
>
>>
>>> After installation, everything worked except
>>> that there was no 24V to the Pick coil (terminal #3) of the gas
>>> valve.
>>
>> Yeah, so obviously you dont know the secret.
>
> Yea, well that was my question wasn't it. Since, the HVAC mafia in
> this forum (who seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex
> contributing to their hostility) have chosen to ridicule rather than
> help, you can all ESAD.
>
> BTW, I fixed it last night. One of the infidels knows your secret.

Bob;

You quite honestly should have looked into a new furnace. The Carrier 58SS
model [1980 if my memory service me correct] and is over 25 years old. And
the heat exchanger in that model is likely on the verge of going south. I
expect you thought the moisture from the inducer housing was normal, which
it's not. The presence of excess moisture might be a cause to look for
additonal problems in the chimney flu [btw is should be metal. If it's clay
or is piped to a clay chimney, you might want to consider changing it.] The
circuit boad failure is just the result of the excess moisture. The excess
moisture is also attaching the iron firebox in the appiance as well. Take
the inducer apart and check.

And $4,000 is a bit steep for a furance replacment. [Unless you live in
Antartica or something.] But now you've spent $$$ and could have put that
towards a new furance. A newer furance with newer features would also save
you $$ on the utility bills as well. More efficient motors, more efficient
heat exchangers, and more efficient burners. Less maintenace and no pilot.
The 58SS has an intermittent pilot. New furances have no pilot.

You missed the calling on this one. You really should have thought about a
replacement appliance.

--
Zyp



Posted by Bob on October 20, 2007, 5:06 pm
Zyp wrote:

> Bob wrote:
> > Bubba wrote:
> >
> > > > The control board part was HH84AA005 is obsolete, the Carrier
> > > > replacement is HH84AA021. I also replaced the
> > > > tranformer(scorched by the flames) and the relay on the inducer
> > > > board(corroded contacts from the water dripping down).
> > >
> > > You unsoldered and resoldered the relay on the inducer board?
> > > What an idiot.
> >
> > No, I removed the defective replay and replaced it with a new one
> >
> > >
> > > > After installation, everything worked except
> > > > that there was no 24V to the Pick coil (terminal #3) of the gas
> > > > valve.
> > >
> > > Yeah, so obviously you dont know the secret.
> >
> > Yea, well that was my question wasn't it. Since, the HVAC mafia in
> > this forum (who seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex
> > contributing to their hostility) have chosen to ridicule rather than
> > help, you can all ESAD.
> >
> > BTW, I fixed it last night. One of the infidels knows your secret.
>
> Bob;
>
> You quite honestly should have looked into a new furnace. The
> Carrier 58SS model [1980 if my memory service me correct] and is over
> 25 years old. And the heat exchanger in that model is likely on the
> verge of going south. I expect you thought the moisture from the
> inducer housing was normal, which it's not. The presence of excess
> moisture might be a cause to look for additonal problems in the
> chimney flu [btw is should be metal. If it's clay or is piped to a
> clay chimney, you might want to consider changing it.] The circuit
> boad failure is just the result of the excess moisture. The excess
> moisture is also attaching the iron firebox in the appiance as well.
> Take the inducer apart and check.
>
> And $4,000 is a bit steep for a furance replacment. [Unless you live
> in Antartica or something.] But now you've spent $$$ and could have
> put that towards a new furance. A newer furance with newer features
> would also save you $$ on the utility bills as well. More efficient
> motors, more efficient heat exchangers, and more efficient burners.
> Less maintenace and no pilot. The 58SS has an intermittent pilot.
> New furances have no pilot.
>
> You missed the calling on this one. You really should have thought
> about a replacement appliance.

Zyp:

I know. Unfortunately, I have a short term cash flow issue, even the
$800 quote from the company that I faithfully have had service the unit
for the last 16 years is too much right now. My family was cold, I had
no other choice. I greatly appreciate your sincere and helpful
response.

Thankyou very much
Bob

Posted by Noon-Air on October 20, 2007, 5:20 pm

> Bob wrote:
>> Bubba wrote:
>>
>>>> The control board part was HH84AA005 is obsolete, the Carrier
>>>> replacement is HH84AA021. I also replaced the tranformer(scorched by
>>>> the flames) and the relay on the inducer board(corroded contacts
>>>> from the water dripping down).
>>>
>>> You unsoldered and resoldered the relay on the inducer board?
>>> What an idiot.
>>
>> No, I removed the defective replay and replaced it with a new one
>>
>>>
>>>> After installation, everything worked except
>>>> that there was no 24V to the Pick coil (terminal #3) of the gas
>>>> valve.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so obviously you dont know the secret.
>>
>> Yea, well that was my question wasn't it. Since, the HVAC mafia in
>> this forum (who seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex
>> contributing to their hostility) have chosen to ridicule rather than
>> help, you can all ESAD.
>>
>> BTW, I fixed it last night. One of the infidels knows your secret.
>
> Bob;
>
> You quite honestly should have looked into a new furnace. The Carrier
> 58SS model [1980 if my memory service me correct] and is over 25 years
> old. And the heat exchanger in that model is likely on the verge of going
> south. I expect you thought the moisture from the inducer housing was
> normal, which it's not. The presence of excess moisture might be a cause
> to look for additonal problems in the chimney flu [btw is should be metal.
> If it's clay or is piped to a clay chimney, you might want to consider
> changing it.] The circuit boad failure is just the result of the excess
> moisture. The excess moisture is also attaching the iron firebox in the
> appiance as well. Take the inducer apart and check.
>
> And $4,000 is a bit steep for a furance replacment. [Unless you live in
> Antartica or something.] But now you've spent $$$ and could have put that
> towards a new furance. A newer furance with newer features would also
> save you $$ on the utility bills as well. More efficient motors, more
> efficient heat exchangers, and more efficient burners. Less maintenace
> and no pilot. The 58SS has an intermittent pilot. New furances have no
> pilot.
>
> You missed the calling on this one. You really should have thought about
> a replacement appliance.
>
> --
> Zyp

Sorry Zyp, an 80+ (2S/VS depending on size) runs $3,000 - 4,000 installed
plus tax and a 90+(Mod 90 depending on size) is $3,500 - $5,000 installed
plus tax.



Posted by Simon Schnizzard on October 21, 2007, 2:40 am

>
> > Bob wrote:
> >> Bubba wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The control board part was HH84AA005 is obsolete, the Carrier
> >>>> replacement is HH84AA021. I also replaced the tranformer(scorched by
> >>>> the flames) and the relay on the inducer board(corroded contacts
> >>>> from the water dripping down).
> >>>
> >>> You unsoldered and resoldered the relay on the inducer board?
> >>> What an idiot.
> >>
> >> No, I removed the defective replay and replaced it with a new one
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> After installation, everything worked except
> >>>> that there was no 24V to the Pick coil (terminal #3) of the gas
> >>>> valve.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, so obviously you dont know the secret.
> >>
> >> Yea, well that was my question wasn't it. Since, the HVAC mafia in
> >> this forum (who seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex
> >> contributing to their hostility) have chosen to ridicule rather than
> >> help, you can all ESAD.
> >>
> >> BTW, I fixed it last night. One of the infidels knows your secret.
> >
> > Bob;
> >
> > You quite honestly should have looked into a new furnace. The Carrier
> > 58SS model [1980 if my memory service me correct] and is over 25 years
> > old. And the heat exchanger in that model is likely on the verge of
going
> > south. I expect you thought the moisture from the inducer housing was
> > normal, which it's not. The presence of excess moisture might be a
cause
> > to look for additonal problems in the chimney flu [btw is should be
metal.
> > If it's clay or is piped to a clay chimney, you might want to consider
> > changing it.] The circuit boad failure is just the result of the excess
> > moisture. The excess moisture is also attaching the iron firebox in the
> > appiance as well. Take the inducer apart and check.
> >
> > And $4,000 is a bit steep for a furance replacment. [Unless you live in
> > Antartica or something.] But now you've spent $$$ and could have put
that
> > towards a new furance. A newer furance with newer features would also
> > save you $$ on the utility bills as well. More efficient motors, more
> > efficient heat exchangers, and more efficient burners. Less maintenace
> > and no pilot. The 58SS has an intermittent pilot. New furances have no
> > pilot.
> >
> > You missed the calling on this one. You really should have thought
about
> > a replacement appliance.
> >
> > --
> > Zyp
>
> Sorry Zyp, an 80+ (2S/VS depending on size) runs $3,000 - 4,000 installed
> plus tax and a 90+(Mod 90 depending on size) is $3,500 - $5,000 installed
> plus tax.
>
>

Ya but heating is a LUXURY ITEM down there where you live...

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