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Problem with AC comressor fast cycling Hareti 02-21-2007
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Posted by on February 24, 2007, 11:16 pm

> I suspect that the unit has a receiver. And that the compressor
> runs until the suction side gets low enough. Figuring that the
> solenoid is on the liquid refrigerant line, that would make sense
> that the solenoid opens when the chilled water gets too warm.
>
> As you say, the solenoid allows more instant action. The cooling
> water warms up, the solenoid opens, and the cooling starts almost
> immediately.


And YOU claim to be a tech...

What do you figure happens to the liquid refrigerant after the unit shuts
off?


> Please let us know what the repair guy finds.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
>
> : Thanks DIDO and ftwht for your input. Things are a lot clearer
> now.
> : The chiller uses R22 and works at 3-5 degrees C.
> :
> : It's definitely not cutting out on high pressure because this
> has to
> : be reset manually.
> :
> : I had a look again and the solenoid is indeed in the liquid
> line. So
> : does the solenoid valve make control of the chilling more
> positive? I
> : was thinking that if you controlled the chiller purely by
> starting and
> : stopping the compressor there would be a delay and waste of
> energy.
> : Without a valve, when the compressor stops the liquid would
> continue
> : passing through the expansion valve for a little while. Then
> when the
> : compressor starts again it would have to charge all the lines
> between
> : the compressor and expansion valve before actual chilling
> starts.
> : Using a solenoid valve stops the movement of refrigerant
> completely,
> : and allows chilling to start immediately the thermostat demands
> it.
> :
> : The LPCO has gone home, back tomorrow to finish the job.
> :
>
>



Posted by Oscar_Lives on February 24, 2007, 4:23 pm

> Hareti: what gas(refrigerant ) does your chiller uses
> at what temperature does chiller suppose to operate
> yes there is possibility that unit is cycling on/off
> on pressure switch the problem is what could be causing it
> to do that, your contractor should check following
> compressors vale plates perhaps some valve reeds
> could be cracked and pressure equalizing very rapid,
> liquid line solenoid valve stuck in open position,
> if unit is shouting down on high pressure and you are
> saying that it has plenty of cooling "not necessarily"
> check the water if is picking up heat you could have
> dirty condenser and it need to be clean out


Awww man.... Good shit! Not too harsh....



Posted by on February 21, 2007, 9:13 pm
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Having some trouble with a 25 ton AC system. After a few minutes of
>running the compressor starts cycling very quickly - on and off every
>3 seconds or so. When it's doing this the supply pressure guage show a
>fairly steady 130 psi. The suction pressure guage rises to about 40
>psi when the compressor is running and drops to about 20 psi when
>stopped. It's not HP cut out, the condenser is getting plenty of
>cooling water. It's not motor overload either. What's going on?
>Expansion valve not opening properly?

        Needs qualified repairman.

        Turn it off until it sees one, or it'll cost you a compressor.

        WTF are you doing on a 25 ton unit anyway ? Obviously you're
not qualified. I take it you're the 'facility maintenance guy', not
an HVAC specialist. Now is the time to tell your boss to call an HVAC
contractor.


>Any suggestions appreciated...

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