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Problems with air conditioner stryped 07-16-2006
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Posted by Gunner on July 17, 2006, 5:27 am
wrote:

>
>> x-no:archive:yes
>>
>> I have 3 year old Goodman air conditioner. One ton. It is used for a
>> bonus room. Went upstairs for the first time in a few days. It was very
>> hot. Air was blowing through vents but not cold. The condenser outside
>> was kind of buzzing but the fan was not turning. Eventually finally the
>> buzzing went off. With a screwdriver I was able to turn the fan blades
>> very easily. Could this be the fan motor? I have a multimeter and know
>> how to use it. Is there a way to diagnose this problem myself. I have
>> two kids and money is tight right now. I saw no obvious leaks. I have a
>> leak checker but it will be the morning before I can. But wouldnt it be
>> making no noise and shut off if it was out of refrigerent? My guess was
>> the fan is not working and it caused the unit to kick off as a safety
>> measure and that the "buzzing" i heard was the bad fan motor but I dont
>> know. I have not worked with home air conditioners too much just cars.
>> Any help is appreciated!
>>
>
>Goodman doesn't make a 1 ton split..... but you can make me a liar by
>posting the model and serial numbers
>The buzzing went off when something else tripped or burnt up so by not
>turning it off immediately, you have compounded your problem(s). Hopefully
>you didn't fry the fan motor or the compressor with your screwing around. If
>the motor and compressor are ok, it will be a simple, inexpensive repair.
>Your problem has *NOTHING* to do with the refrigerant system, and has
>everything to do with Goodman being the cheapest made POS around.
>There is no comparison between a car a/c and a home comfort system. I have a
>couple of customers that still haven't learned that what might work on a car
>a/c will destroy a home comfort system.
>*Most* competent HVAC techs will immediately know exactly what your problem
>is and have the parts on the truck.
>
>FWIW, poor mouthing won't work... nobody cut me any slack when I had 2
>households (one with child support), and a business to support.
>
>
So why did she leave you? She couldnt stand your bad attitude or the
drinking and beatings?

And yet you went and started another family you couldnt afford.

Way to go Ace.

Gunner

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Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 17, 2006, 9:22 am
Probably a bad fan capacitor. Goodman is noted for bad caps. Just
replace it, and be happy. Replace both of htem to be sure. Compressor
caps go bad, also.

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x-no:archive:yes

I have 3 year old Goodman air conditioner. One ton. It is used for a
bonus room. Went upstairs for the first time in a few days. It was
very
hot. Air was blowing through vents but not cold. The condenser outside
was kind of buzzing but the fan was not turning. Eventually finally
the
buzzing went off. With a screwdriver I was able to turn the fan blades
very easily. Could this be the fan motor? I have a multimeter and know
how to use it. Is there a way to diagnose this problem myself. I have
two kids and money is tight right now. I saw no obvious leaks. I have
a
leak checker but it will be the morning before I can. But wouldnt it
be
making no noise and shut off if it was out of refrigerent? My guess
was
the fan is not working and it caused the unit to kick off as a safety
measure and that the "buzzing" i heard was the bad fan motor but I
dont
know. I have not worked with home air conditioners too much just cars.
Any help is appreciated!



Posted by Noon-Air on July 17, 2006, 10:23 am

> Probably a bad fan capacitor. Goodman is noted for bad caps. Just
> replace it, and be happy. Replace both of htem to be sure. Compressor
> caps go bad, also.

Replace *BOTH* of them??? ROFLMAO



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on July 17, 2006, 10:44 am

>
>> Probably a bad fan capacitor. Goodman is noted for bad caps. Just
>> replace it, and be happy. Replace both of htem to be sure. Compressor
>> caps go bad, also.
>
> Replace *BOTH* of them??? ROFLMAO

Hey. He's not in a profit situation; he wants a reliable unit. If one cap
has failed, the other is probably drying out, and might need replacement
soon. They are inexpensive, compared to the effort and time of pulling the
unit apart. Why NOT change both while you have it apart?

The only thing I'm confused over concerning this post was the size of the
unit vs its configuration. It's only a one ton unit, but it's a split (not
window unit). I'm not familiar with your locale, so this may be
geographical bias. But the smallest unit we can buy around here (Florida)
in split configuration is a two-ton.

Condenser fans are prone to failure for a number of reasons -- often motor
installers (even the original manufacturers) will forget to take out the
weep plugs, and they corrode from accumulated rain water. But usually if
anything else but the cap goes bad, the shaft will get sticky or seize. The
outside fan relay might also be bad -- or one of the crimps on wiring from
the control board to the motor, or from the motor to the cap(s).

LLoyd



Posted by mm on July 17, 2006, 1:15 pm
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:44:43 GMT, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

>
>The only thing I'm confused over concerning this post was the size of the
>unit vs its configuration. It's only a one ton unit, but it's a split (not
>window unit).

If it's not a window unit, it's a split?? I still don't get what a
split is.

>I'm not familiar with your locale, so this may be
>geographical bias. But the smallest unit we can buy around here (Florida)
>in split configuration is a two-ton.

There's a compressor just like mine in the trash right now. 27 years
old. Should I go to the trouble to take out the condensor, the fan
motor, the "contactor" or anything else? Normally I would just do so,
but it's alreay about 98 degrees and I don't feel like it.



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