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Posted by Bolaleman on August 13, 2008, 5:36 pm
Hello all, I came across this article in the web where it is claimed
that puron and freon type of gases are not more destructive to the
ozone layer than laundry bleach and pool chlorine.
What do you think?
I did a copy and paste:
Refrigerants also known as the Dupont name Freon have been removed
from the market place by force with the argument that they destroy the
ozone layer.
The offending ingredient is supposedly chlorine. The only problem
with that is you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that
there are other sources of chlorine on earth. Some are produced by man
and the rest is produced by nature.
The most common produced by man is the chlorine used by municipal
water supplies to treat water. The second most common use is laundry
bleach and pool Chlorine as well as manufacturing too many uses to
name.
Nature releases Chlorine all the time by volcanos and the oceans.
So just do the math if the earth produces millions of tons of
Chlorine and refrigerants a few thousand then nature must be producing
the bulk of it.
The other half of the scam is if Chlorine is so damn bad then why
are we using it still for all uses except refrigerants. The truth is
that the patents on many of the refrigerants have expired and in order
to stop other manufactures from making it we must get the government
to force manufactures to stop making it.
The old refrigerants were developed to be perfect never breaking
down or changing chemistry, except when exposed to water the
refrigerants will immediately decompose.
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THE PROBLEM
Except for a few honest contractors like us and I do mean few. Every
one except the consumer stands to benefit from this scam.
Contractors stand to make billions retrofitting systems that would
otherwise work fine. Contractors stand to make billions repairing
leaks and replacing equipment damaged by the new refrigerants.
Contractors stand to make billions charging to recover token amounts
of refrigerant from systems that are being decommissioned or discarded
($80 is the going rate to unload the recovery unit even if just 1
ounce is recovered) . While others charge the customer for recovery
and vent the refrigerant anyway.
The new refrigerants are not as good as the old refrigerants and
attack the equipment and require special oils. The old refrigerants
will last indefinitely.
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The Solution
Be sure not to reelect your congressional members that voted for this
scam (chances are they did). Don't believe that the people who won the
Nobel Prize didn't get paid off by the chemical companies to do it.
You can be absolutely sure that they use chlorine in their olympic
size swimming pools.
Write your members of congress and ask them to repeal this act, if
they don't answer then you will know they are part of it.
Don't hire contractors that recommend the use of puron equipment
over R22. The fact that they are recommending it means that they are
cashing in on your misinformation. Believe me they will give you the
best song and dance how your perfectly good working equipment is going
to hurt the environment while their pool chlorine won't.
For more information Please email me at the links below.
Source: Scott Meenen (http://www.toad.net/~jsmeenen/freon.html)
All-in-one Job Database Search jobs by area code, city name or salary
range:
http://2ajobguide.com/jobs_area_code_location.aspx
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 13, 2008, 9:23 pm
According to the wizened pointy heads in white coats, there is a difference.
Chlorine in the pool is ionized form, which is washed out of the air by
rain. Chlorine in the refrigerants is a stable mollecule which manages to
make it higher into the atmosphere.
Now, regardless of what you believe, in terms of atoms and mollecules. The
cost of R-22 is way up, in the last few years. The cost of 410 A, I can't
comment, not bought any.
The new stuff is supposed to work OK in terms of cooling. I can't be sure,
not worked with it.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Hello all, I came across this article in the web where it is claimed
that puron and freon type of gases are not more destructive to the
ozone layer than laundry bleach and pool chlorine.
What do you think?
I did a copy and paste:
Refrigerants also known as the Dupont name Freon have been removed
from the market place by force with the argument that they destroy the
ozone layer.
The offending ingredient is supposedly chlorine. The only problem
with that is you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that
there are other sources of chlorine on earth. Some are produced by man
and the rest is produced by nature.
The most common produced by man is the chlorine used by municipal
water supplies to treat water. The second most common use is laundry
bleach and pool Chlorine as well as manufacturing too many uses to
name.
Nature releases Chlorine all the time by volcanos and the oceans.
So just do the math if the earth produces millions of tons of
Chlorine and refrigerants a few thousand then nature must be producing
the bulk of it.
The other half of the scam is if Chlorine is so damn bad then why
are we using it still for all uses except refrigerants. The truth is
that the patents on many of the refrigerants have expired and in order
to stop other manufactures from making it we must get the government
to force manufactures to stop making it.
The old refrigerants were developed to be perfect never breaking
down or changing chemistry, except when exposed to water the
refrigerants will immediately decompose.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE PROBLEM
Except for a few honest contractors like us and I do mean few. Every
one except the consumer stands to benefit from this scam.
Contractors stand to make billions retrofitting systems that would
otherwise work fine. Contractors stand to make billions repairing
leaks and replacing equipment damaged by the new refrigerants.
Contractors stand to make billions charging to recover token amounts
of refrigerant from systems that are being decommissioned or discarded
($80 is the going rate to unload the recovery unit even if just 1
ounce is recovered) . While others charge the customer for recovery
and vent the refrigerant anyway.
The new refrigerants are not as good as the old refrigerants and
attack the equipment and require special oils. The old refrigerants
will last indefinitely.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Solution
Be sure not to reelect your congressional members that voted for this
scam (chances are they did). Don't believe that the people who won the
Nobel Prize didn't get paid off by the chemical companies to do it.
You can be absolutely sure that they use chlorine in their olympic
size swimming pools.
Write your members of congress and ask them to repeal this act, if
they don't answer then you will know they are part of it.
Don't hire contractors that recommend the use of puron equipment
over R22. The fact that they are recommending it means that they are
cashing in on your misinformation. Believe me they will give you the
best song and dance how your perfectly good working equipment is going
to hurt the environment while their pool chlorine won't.
For more information Please email me at the links below.
Source: Scott Meenen (http://www.toad.net/~jsmeenen/freon.html)
All-in-one Job Database Search jobs by area code, city name or salary
range:
http://2ajobguide.com/jobs_area_code_location.aspx
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Posted by KJPRO on August 13, 2008, 9:40 pm
> According to the wizened pointy heads in white coats, there is a
> difference.
> Chlorine in the pool is ionized form, which is washed out of the air by
> rain. Chlorine in the refrigerants is a stable mollecule which manages to
> make it higher into the atmosphere.
> Now, regardless of what you believe, in terms of atoms and mollecules. The
> cost of R-22 is way up, in the last few years. The cost of 410 A, I can't
> comment, not bought any.
Do us a favor and don't purchase any... EVER!
> The new stuff is supposed to work OK in terms of cooling. I can't be sure,
> not worked with it.
I'm not sure either... equipment manufacture's keep making the units even
though they don't cool. DUH!
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Posted by KJPRO on August 13, 2008, 9:37 pm
> Don't hire contractors that recommend the use of puron equipment
> over R22.
Then be my guest and do *without* air conditioning, when your current system
needs to be replaced after 2010.... as manufacture's *can't* manufacture
R-22 units after this date. So when the old units are all gone, you'll be
shit out of luck and me and my clients will be in comfort with our R-410
systems!
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Posted by on August 14, 2008, 12:08 am
wrote:
>> Don't hire contractors that recommend the use of puron equipment
>> over R22.
>Then be my guest and do *without* air conditioning, when your current system
>needs to be replaced after 2010.... as manufacture's *can't* manufacture
>R-22 units after this date. So when the old units are all gone, you'll be
>shit out of luck and me and my clients will be in comfort with our R-410
>systems!
And I'll be charging $100.00 per pound for R22. I've got jugs of it
and am just waiting for 2010.
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> difference.
> Chlorine in the pool is ionized form, which is washed out of the air by
> rain. Chlorine in the refrigerants is a stable mollecule which manages to
> make it higher into the atmosphere.
> Now, regardless of what you believe, in terms of atoms and mollecules. The
> cost of R-22 is way up, in the last few years. The cost of 410 A, I can't
> comment, not bought any.