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Posted by Noon-Air on June 14, 2007, 8:38 am
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>>> I'm replacing my central air and have gotten estimates for one w/R22
>>> and one w/ Puron. The last guy said he'd go w/R22 because of the
>>> higher costs of 410A and that it would cost more to repair. Also, he
>>> doesn't like it because of the higher pressure it's under, and he said
>>> the units were less reliable and would have more costly repairs.
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>>Tell the last guy to go back to school, and learn how to deal with and get
>>certified for R-410a. In the mean time, look for somebody that actually
>>knows what they are doing.
>>In 2 1/2 years, you won't have a choice. Rheem is shutting down their R-22
>>equipment assembly lines in December 2007.
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> oh but we will have a choice. watch rheems market share plummet.
You will have a choice until January 2010
> personally I don't know of any consumers who are excited about the
> idea of not having a choice, regardless of what the product is.
I don't know of any customers that are excited about the rising cost of R-22
either. Until 2000, the customer didn't have a choice, it was R-22 or
nothing.
> with you putting all your eggs in rheems basket, it sounds to me like
> you're the one without many choices ! :)
I could sell lesser brands also(Payne, Bryant, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc), but
why would I want to??...... The other brands cost the same.
>>You can do what you want, but FWIW, I haven't even offered R-22 systems in
>>the last year. R-22 is gone by the wayside.
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> along with all the potential cutomers you passed up by not offering
> them a choice!!
The only ones I am passing up are the ones that want it cheap. In the last 6
months there have been several contractors go out of business because they
were selling 13 SEER equipment at 10 SEER prices.... there will be more to
follow.
>>> I've looked at past posts, googled for info, but it's hard to get an
>>> objective opinion. I'm in Georgia so the AC gets a lot of use. I may
>>> stay in the house only 3 more years, and the repairs/costs would be
>>> someone else's headache, but then again, would the 410A unit be a
>>> better selling point in 2010? And if I end up staying until 2020,
>>> would I have to replace the AC again to the newer refrigerant?
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>>Like I said, by January, 2010, you won't have a choice.
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>>>>From what I've read so far, R22 will be around for a long time, but I
>>> don't want to be buying a dinosaur I may be living with for the next
>>> 10-15 years and which may ultimately cost more due to older
>>> technology.
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>>In 2004, the availability of R-22 was reduced by 35% and the wholesale
>>price
>>tripled. in Jan 2010, R-22 will be cut back an additional 65%, in 2015
>>R-22
>>will be cut back another 90%, so in 7 1/2 years, the availability of R-22
>>will be almost non existent. Yes there are some "drop-in" replacements,
>>but
>>using them will void any compressor manufacturers warranty. If in 5 years
>>if
>>your R-22 system needs to be gassed up, be prepared to pay $100/lb or
>>more.
>>
>>> Advice and opinions welcome.
>>> Thanks,
>>> mcnick
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>>There are those on here that would disagree with me, but for the most part
>>those who do disagree, don't have the training, or hands on experience
>>with
>>R-410a
>>
> what a bullshit statement. sad that you have to resort to statements
> such as that to defend your position.
I said "for the most part", *NOT* "everybody", and certainly not everybody
on here.
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