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Posted by on November 4, 2008, 7:52 am
> > Its quite obvious you havent sold any homes lately. Living with a
> > realtor, Im quite up on the subject. Most new homebuyers now hire a
> > home inspector for a home they are interested in. Some are incompetent
> > and some are very very thorough. Right down to ungrounded electrical
> > outlets and cracks in walls and foundations that you done even notice.
> > They also know ages and life spans of things like furnaces and air
> > conditioners, etc. There is a good reason for home inspectors and that
> > is because of people like you Logic. Guys like you that futz with all
> > your own chit and patch it together with chewing gum and duct tape.
> > When you sell you get to fill out discloseure forms. If they find out
> > you lie they can come back years later to sue your ass although anyone
> > can sue anyone for anything. Comparing a home sale to a car sale is
> > almost funny. You need a dose or reality logic.
> > Bubba-
> bubba you are absiolutely correct. a nearby homeowner sold a house
> with a bad sewer line, new owner had flood, from sewage backup...
> new owener called plumber who said yeah i told old owner main line was
> bad, not disclosed old owener paid for all new sewer line, wall and
> yard replacement and new driveway.
> new owner didnt care much about costs, old owner poaid thru nose.
The only thing I would disagree with is that I think the used car
analogy has validity. Logic's apparent premise is that there is no
advantage to fixing anything until it's completely shot or it's
remaining life can be exactly determined. Now if I had a used car
to sell, just like a house, there are certain things I'd fix because I
know they are going to be important to a prospective buyer. If the
car had two front tires that were worn and nearing their end but still
met the minimum state inspection reqts, I'd get new ones, because it
makes the car easier to sell and you will likely get the money for the
2 tires back and maybe more. And just like with a house, a car with
no obvious items sticking out, leaves the buyer with the impression
that it's more likely been maintained in some reasonable fashion over
time. If the car had floor mats that couldn't been cleaned to look
nice, I'd replace those too. Of course you have to do this on a case
by case basis, depending on what the value of the car is, etc. But
putting $300 into a $5000 car could easily make the car sell quicker
and get you the $300 back.
In the case of the oil tank, do we even know how old it is? The
fact that people are telling you some insurance companies won't write
a policy on a house with a tank over 20 years old should tell you
something. I would expect MOST tanks would fail by developing a slow
leak, which if caught in time, could be dealt with without having a
big problem. But given that a big problem could be tens of
thousands of dollars, why take that risk? Suppose it leaks just 5
gallons into the basement. How easy do you think it's going to be to
get the smell out, so that some prospective buyer doesn't start
investigating what it's all about?
So, I think the answer is determine it's age as best you can and
either replace it because it's old and prudent to do so or have a pan
ready and ride it till it starts leaking oil.
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Posted by zero on November 1, 2008, 11:27 pm
> My heating oil tank is pretty old, and is located in my basement. I have
> no idea how much rust might be inside it. Is there any way to gauge it's
> structural integrity and approximate remaining lifespan?
Yes, however It would be very expensive.
>And should it spring a leak one day, is there any trick for quickly
>patching an oil leak just until a new tank can be installed?
No, no tricks.
>They say that with leaky automobile gas tanks, you can rub a bar of soap
>into the hole and it would hold for a while, would that work?
I do not belive so.
-zero
> - Logic316
> "Science is not a sacred cow. Science is a horse. Don't worship it. Feed
> it."
>
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Posted by Bob F on November 2, 2008, 6:27 am
> My heating oil tank is pretty old, and is located in my basement. I have no
> idea how much rust might be inside it. Is there any way to gauge it's
> structural integrity and approximate remaining lifespan? And should it spring
> a leak one day, is there any trick for quickly patching an oil leak just until
> a new tank can be installed? They say that with leaky automobile gas tanks,
> you can rub a bar of soap into the hole and it would hold for a while, would
> that work?
I acquired a used air compressor tank that I wanted to verify was safe. I talked
to the "boiler and pressure vessel" inspector for the city, who volunteered to
drop by and checked multiple locations on the tank for thickness using a
handheld ultrasonic thickness guage. So yes, it should be possible. Finding the
tool, or someone to do it might be a problem.
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 2, 2008, 9:15 am
> > My heating oil tank is pretty old, and is located in my basement. I hav=
e no
> > idea how much rust might be inside it. Is there any way to gauge it's
> > structural integrity and approximate remaining lifespan? And should it =
spring
> > a leak one day, is there any trick for quickly patching an oil leak jus=
t until
> > a new tank can be installed? They say that with leaky automobile gas ta=
nks,
> > you can rub a bar of soap into the hole and it would hold for a while, =
would
> > that work?
> I acquired a used air compressor tank that I wanted to verify was safe. I=
talked
> to the "boiler and pressure vessel" inspector for the city, who volunteer=
ed to
> drop by and checked multiple locations on the tank for thickness using a
> handheld ultrasonic thickness guage. So yes, it should be possible. Findi=
ng the
> tool, or someone to do it might be a problem.
in the case of a home sale they will want a certified guaranteed
inspection.
no doubt that will cost more than a new tank
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Posted by HVAC on November 2, 2008, 11:37 am
> They say that with leaky automobile gas tanks, you can rub a bar of soap
> into the hole and it would hold for a while, would that work?
Sure. Shove a bar of soap up your ass.
When you fart, bubbles will form.
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> > realtor, Im quite up on the subject. Most new homebuyers now hire a
> > home inspector for a home they are interested in. Some are incompetent
> > and some are very very thorough. Right down to ungrounded electrical
> > outlets and cracks in walls and foundations that you done even notice.
> > They also know ages and life spans of things like furnaces and air
> > conditioners, etc. There is a good reason for home inspectors and that
> > is because of people like you Logic. Guys like you that futz with all
> > your own chit and patch it together with chewing gum and duct tape.
> > When you sell you get to fill out discloseure forms. If they find out
> > you lie they can come back years later to sue your ass although anyone
> > can sue anyone for anything. Comparing a home sale to a car sale is
> > almost funny. You need a dose or reality logic.
> > Bubba-