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Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 27, 2007, 8:26 pm
I been "lurking" here and I hope that all have been satisfied. I been
reading this and had seen it on TV. Is this possible and can it really
work?

http://www.josephnewman.com

I, Joseph Newman, have repeatedly stated that mass means NOTHING if it
does not have a MECHANICAL UNDERSTANDING . The equation for horsepower
of rotating motor shaft so PROVES - "ft. lbs X rpm divided by 5252 =
HP". Yet that equation does not designate the TIME of said horsepower.
Constant of mass - rpm implies horsepower per minute.

James Watt in the late 1700s who established the HP as a unit of
measurement specifically stated that such a measurement was dependent
upon TIME: "33,000 lbs 1 ft. per MINUTE."

Accordingly, the HP of a rotating shaft must be measured in HP per
minute of rotating shaft or, in shorthand, HP of rotating shaft per
SECOND. ["550 lbs 1 ft. per second."]

I show you now a simple MECHANICAL explanation of HP per second of
TRUTH: Take a shaft and attach it to the center of 1 ft radius [2 ft.
diameter] pulley. Now imagine that you rotate the shaft of one full
rotation of 360 degrees in one SECOND. Then "you" have lifted 550 lbs
6.283 ft in one second! ["1 ft. radius gives 6.283 ft in circumference"]
That is, 6.283 HP per second! Per rotation of shaft! Multiply by [60
rpm] 60 SECONDS that is 376.98 HP per MINUTE!

Said above is WRONG! Vague conventional HP equation gives only 6.283 HP
per MINUTE!

The TRUTH of MECHANICAL explanation given by me has been applied to
rotating shaft of 400 lb magnetic rotary of my revolutionary motor that
will shock the world in the immediate future. IT WILL PROVE WHO IS THE
MASTER OF MY REVOLUTIONARY ENERGY INVENTION!

Fact: Conventional equation must be changed to the following:

HP of rotating shaft of motor:

HP = ft lbs X RPM divided by 5252 X 60 = HP per MINUTE.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

Posted by New Directions In Building Ser on June 28, 2007, 6:44 pm
As someone who (used to but) can no longer fully comprehend anything but
metric units of measurement I don't really get to use/nor have much interest
in your imperial measurement equasion for HP of a rotating shaft - but for
clarity and your information....
Horse Power is a unit of force not a unit of effort - therefore in the
measurements that I use is the equal of kW.
Effort is the measured force x time - therefore the measurement that I would
use is kWh.
We also differentiate between mech/elec and refrigeration capacity by using
mech/elec kW and Refrigeration kWR (the ratio difference provides your
coefficient of performance [COP]).
We also use kVA to represent power supplied (Volts x Amps) / 1,000 as
compared to electrical applied power kW (volts x amps x power factor) /
1,000.

There are many useful "rules of thumb" out there which provide usable
practical estimates. By your addaption of them into "formula" you are
tainting the use of these estimate guides.

Please saturate yourself in UV until you find clarity of thought and
action... or maybe that's already happened only the results were confusion
and disfunction.

>I been "lurking" here and I hope that all have been satisfied. I been
>reading this and had seen it on TV. Is this possible and can it really
>work?
>
> http://www.josephnewman.com
>
> I, Joseph Newman, have repeatedly stated that mass means NOTHING if it
> does not have a MECHANICAL UNDERSTANDING . The equation for horsepower of
> rotating motor shaft so PROVES - "ft. lbs X rpm divided by 5252 = HP". Yet
> that equation does not designate the TIME of said horsepower. Constant of
> mass - rpm implies horsepower per minute.
>
> James Watt in the late 1700s who established the HP as a unit of
> measurement specifically stated that such a measurement was dependent upon
> TIME: "33,000 lbs 1 ft. per MINUTE."
>
> Accordingly, the HP of a rotating shaft must be measured in HP per minute
> of rotating shaft or, in shorthand, HP of rotating shaft per SECOND. ["550
> lbs 1 ft. per second."]
>
> I show you now a simple MECHANICAL explanation of HP per second of TRUTH:
> Take a shaft and attach it to the center of 1 ft radius [2 ft. diameter]
> pulley. Now imagine that you rotate the shaft of one full rotation of 360
> degrees in one SECOND. Then "you" have lifted 550 lbs 6.283 ft in one
> second! ["1 ft. radius gives 6.283 ft in circumference"] That is, 6.283 HP
> per second! Per rotation of shaft! Multiply by [60 rpm] 60 SECONDS that is
> 376.98 HP per MINUTE!
>
> Said above is WRONG! Vague conventional HP equation gives only 6.283 HP
> per MINUTE!
>
> The TRUTH of MECHANICAL explanation given by me has been applied to
> rotating shaft of 400 lb magnetic rotary of my revolutionary motor that
> will shock the world in the immediate future. IT WILL PROVE WHO IS THE
> MASTER OF MY REVOLUTIONARY ENERGY INVENTION!
>
> Fact: Conventional equation must be changed to the following:
>
> HP of rotating shaft of motor:
>
> HP = ft lbs X RPM divided by 5252 X 60 = HP per MINUTE.
>
> --
> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
> --------------------------
> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
> Viruses and Bacteria.
> Downstream Air Purification
> --------------------------
> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
> --------------------------
> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
> extend life of the HVAC.
> ---------------------------
> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
> have.
>
> Thank You



Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 28, 2007, 7:31 pm
Not too smart are ya mate? Obviously your little brain can't read,
comprehend nor retain information very well.

These are not my "statement", "formulas", "adoptions", "imperial
measurement equations", rather the person "Joseph Newman" who invented
this machine and he has been supported by various people.

This has nothing to do with me directly, UV, nor does it particularly
have to do with HVAC.

My "clarity and information" was just that it defies most principles and
was asking some opinions. Was just a question for engineers.

Seems like you may be inhaling way too much fouled air. You might want
to invest in some UV.

My only confusion is that where and who taught you in school, because
you need to learn how to spell or use spell check. Maybe this could be
a case of how a dysfunctional person (you) perceives others as
dysfunctional?

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

New Directions In Building Services (Australia) wrote:
> As someone who (used to but) can no longer fully comprehend anything but
> metric units of measurement I don't really get to use/nor have much interest
> in your imperial measurement equasion for HP of a rotating shaft - but for
> clarity and your information....
> Horse Power is a unit of force not a unit of effort - therefore in the
> measurements that I use is the equal of kW.
> Effort is the measured force x time - therefore the measurement that I would
> use is kWh.
> We also differentiate between mech/elec and refrigeration capacity by using
> mech/elec kW and Refrigeration kWR (the ratio difference provides your
> coefficient of performance [COP]).
> We also use kVA to represent power supplied (Volts x Amps) / 1,000 as
> compared to electrical applied power kW (volts x amps x power factor) /
> 1,000.
>
> There are many useful "rules of thumb" out there which provide usable
> practical estimates. By your addaption of them into "formula" you are
> tainting the use of these estimate guides.
>
> Please saturate yourself in UV until you find clarity of thought and
> action... or maybe that's already happened only the results were confusion
> and disfunction.
>
>> I been "lurking" here and I hope that all have been satisfied. I been
>> reading this and had seen it on TV. Is this possible and can it really
>> work?
>>
>> http://www.josephnewman.com
>>
>> I, Joseph Newman, have repeatedly stated that mass means NOTHING if it
>> does not have a MECHANICAL UNDERSTANDING . The equation for horsepower of
>> rotating motor shaft so PROVES - "ft. lbs X rpm divided by 5252 = HP". Yet
>> that equation does not designate the TIME of said horsepower. Constant of
>> mass - rpm implies horsepower per minute.
>>
>> James Watt in the late 1700s who established the HP as a unit of
>> measurement specifically stated that such a measurement was dependent upon
>> TIME: "33,000 lbs 1 ft. per MINUTE."
>>
>> Accordingly, the HP of a rotating shaft must be measured in HP per minute
>> of rotating shaft or, in shorthand, HP of rotating shaft per SECOND. ["550
>> lbs 1 ft. per second."]
>>
>> I show you now a simple MECHANICAL explanation of HP per second of TRUTH:
>> Take a shaft and attach it to the center of 1 ft radius [2 ft. diameter]
>> pulley. Now imagine that you rotate the shaft of one full rotation of 360
>> degrees in one SECOND. Then "you" have lifted 550 lbs 6.283 ft in one
>> second! ["1 ft. radius gives 6.283 ft in circumference"] That is, 6.283 HP
>> per second! Per rotation of shaft! Multiply by [60 rpm] 60 SECONDS that is
>> 376.98 HP per MINUTE!
>>
>> Said above is WRONG! Vague conventional HP equation gives only 6.283 HP
>> per MINUTE!
>>
>> The TRUTH of MECHANICAL explanation given by me has been applied to
>> rotating shaft of 400 lb magnetic rotary of my revolutionary motor that
>> will shock the world in the immediate future. IT WILL PROVE WHO IS THE
>> MASTER OF MY REVOLUTIONARY ENERGY INVENTION!
>>
>> Fact: Conventional equation must be changed to the following:
>>
>> HP of rotating shaft of motor:
>>
>> HP = ft lbs X RPM divided by 5252 X 60 = HP per MINUTE.
>>
>> --
>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>> --------------------------
>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>> Downstream Air Purification
>> --------------------------
>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>> --------------------------
>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>> extend life of the HVAC.
>> ---------------------------
>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
>> have.
>>
>> Thank You
>
>


Posted by Jake on June 28, 2007, 7:52 pm
Home Enviro Health Specialists wrote:
> Not too smart are ya mate? Obviously your little brain can't read,
> comprehend nor retain information very well.
>
> These are not my "statement", "formulas", "adoptions", "imperial
> measurement equations", rather the person "Joseph Newman" who invented
> this machine and he has been supported by various people.
>
> This has nothing to do with me directly, UV, nor does it particularly
> have to do with HVAC.
>
> My "clarity and information" was just that it defies most principles and
> was asking some opinions. Was just a question for engineers.
>
> Seems like you may be inhaling way too much fouled air. You might want
> to invest in some UV.
>
> My only confusion is that where and who taught you in school, because
> you need to learn how to spell or use spell check. Maybe this could be
> a case of how a dysfunctional person (you) perceives others as
> dysfunctional?
>

Newman is a nutty "quack"....

I AM an engineer and unlike Mr. Newman graduated both High School and
have a college degree that says so.

Newman appears to be a great con man as well a quack. Read this link...

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

While there is a lot of opinion here, the also base one heck of a lot of
it on fact.

Let's face it... since the day a kid like me was playing erector sets,
we dreamed of a 'perpetual motion machine' that would make us rich. I
got over it... with knowledge. Apparently, Mr. Newman never has.

Engineers... by our nature and training... tend to be realistic and want
to PROVE things to be real. This can be done through established
mathematical theory... or by experiment. In neither case has Mr.
Newman's wondrous inventions proves anything.. except the ability to
suck money from poor, dumb suckers that will succumb to a good con.

Magnetic theory is fairly well established... and proven. Yep... DC
motors are more efficient than AC ones, that's a fact. It also a fact
that anytime you transfer ENERGY through magnetic-mechanical means... it
is not as efficient as just using the energy in its native state.

Trying to use DC to generate AC... well, that takes place either by
solid state electronics or mechanically. Frankly, electronics do a
better job than Mr. Newman's machinations.

If the next great inventor figures out how to generate electricity out
of thin air... without any mechanical or electronic intervention... Now
THAT would be something. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I don't think
Mr. Newman has access to a nuclear accelerator.

Jake






Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 28, 2007, 9:31 pm
Jake wrote:
> Home Enviro Health Specialists wrote:
>> Not too smart are ya mate? Obviously your little brain can't read,
>> comprehend nor retain information very well.
>>
>> These are not my "statement", "formulas", "adoptions", "imperial
>> measurement equations", rather the person "Joseph Newman" who invented
>> this machine and he has been supported by various people.
>>
>> This has nothing to do with me directly, UV, nor does it particularly
>> have to do with HVAC.
>>
>> My "clarity and information" was just that it defies most principles
>> and was asking some opinions. Was just a question for engineers.
>>
>> Seems like you may be inhaling way too much fouled air. You might
>> want to invest in some UV.
>>
>> My only confusion is that where and who taught you in school, because
>> you need to learn how to spell or use spell check. Maybe this could
>> be a case of how a dysfunctional person (you) perceives others as
>> dysfunctional?
>>
>
> Newman is a nutty "quack"....
>
> I AM an engineer and unlike Mr. Newman graduated both High School and
> have a college degree that says so.
>
> Newman appears to be a great con man as well a quack. Read this link...
>
> http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm
>
> While there is a lot of opinion here, the also base one heck of a lot of
> it on fact.
>
> Let's face it... since the day a kid like me was playing erector sets,
> we dreamed of a 'perpetual motion machine' that would make us rich. I
> got over it... with knowledge. Apparently, Mr. Newman never has.
>
> Engineers... by our nature and training... tend to be realistic and want
> to PROVE things to be real. This can be done through established
> mathematical theory... or by experiment. In neither case has Mr.
> Newman's wondrous inventions proves anything.. except the ability to
> suck money from poor, dumb suckers that will succumb to a good con.
>
> Magnetic theory is fairly well established... and proven. Yep... DC
> motors are more efficient than AC ones, that's a fact. It also a fact
> that anytime you transfer ENERGY through magnetic-mechanical means... it
> is not as efficient as just using the energy in its native state.
>
> Trying to use DC to generate AC... well, that takes place either by
> solid state electronics or mechanically. Frankly, electronics do a
> better job than Mr. Newman's machinations.
>
> If the next great inventor figures out how to generate electricity out
> of thin air... without any mechanical or electronic intervention... Now
> THAT would be something. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I don't think
> Mr. Newman has access to a nuclear accelerator.
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks Jake I appreciate the help.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

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