R22, 30 lb sealed- never opened

Posted by Hermann on September 18, 2009, 12:00 am

Dale wrote:

> I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a full, sealed 30
> lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I had my air conditioning
> installed, I purchased everything myself and had a technician friend do
> the final connections (I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it
> turned out, I never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment
> came fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced over at
> Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around $150 or so (they cost
> around $50 to ship out). If anyone here is interested in taking this
> off of my hands, please reply here to leave a message and we'll take it
> from there. I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept
> Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing that it
> clears first).
> Dale

Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or handle R22.
There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling gases and
definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what Ebays liability
is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 18, 2009, 7:29 am

Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
world survived some how.

After the certificate program came into effect, we got
skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

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Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or
handle R22.
There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling
gases and
definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what
Ebays liability
is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

Posted by W.Vanguard on September 18, 2009, 8:26 pm

Stormin Mormon wrote:

> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
> world survived some how.
>
> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
been questionably stored for at least 15 years? Now should the Feds
stupidly decide to pursue thingsd like this, would you be considered
"An Accessory after the Fact"? Which is also a chargeable crime. Ummmm?
There is a whistle blowers fee of up to $10,000. As for this fellow
buying R22 to cut the bid of his contractor, Well... That is a bit of a
jokes as the contractor outsmarted him by not letting it be known that
the Unit casme preloaded. He still got a full paycheck. If this fellow
persists in selling this stuff, he should sell it to those the know and
trust him. I don't take unnecessary risks with what goes into my
customers equipment. You might offer to take it off his hands for the
cost of transport to offset the Multiple $$$$ risk that you could be
taking. I however will pass even on that. By the way it costs $3.00/lb
to destroy if it is somehow bad or contaminated. I suggest that you take
this up with our Jailhouse3 attorney, Mikey the King, before you do
anything.

Posted by on September 18, 2009, 9:07 pm

wrote:

>Stormin Mormon wrote:

>> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
>> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
>> world survived some how.
>>
>> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
>> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
>> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
>> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

>Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
>a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
>fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
>been questionably stored for at least 15 years?

Would you trust the typical canister in the back of the
typical service truck ? :-)

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Posted by Hermann on September 19, 2009, 2:48 am

.p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

> wrote:
>

>> Stormin Mormon wrote:

>>> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
>>> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
>>> world survived some how.
>>> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
>>> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
>>> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
>>> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

>> Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
>> a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
>> fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
>> been questionably stored for at least 15 years?

>
> Would you trust the typical canister in the back of the
> typical service truck ? :-)

Hwll, I don't trust the typical Service truck. Is this guy selling a
hot service truck too? If its a Pinto, stormy is in the market for it.

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