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Posted by KJPRO on May 22, 2008, 10:14 pm
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> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote in
>> It's 72 in air conditioner years.
> But another way to look at it is that they don't build them with the same
> quality anymore. How likely would a modern air conditioner last 36 years?
> And in fact this one is mostly still working. If you compare it with a
> new
> one, which of them is more likely to still be working 20 years later?
> This
> one, which will be 56 years old then, or a new one, which will be 20 years
> old then?
Depends on how many times the evap freezes and how long it runs this way.
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> The only obvious problem with this one is slow airflow.
Post the information that proves "low airflow".
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> And of course the
> slow airflow causes it to freeze up on the hottest, most humid days. But
> most days it actually keeps the house cool, even with the slow airflow, if
> it's turned on early in the morning.
> If nothing can be done to improve it, one cheap temporary solution is to
> get one or more cheap window air conditioners to supplement it, until
> sometime in the future when enough money becomes available to replace it.
> It's in an area where electric rates are relatively low, so efficiency is
> not a major concern.
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Posted by Don Ocean on May 22, 2008, 11:26 pm
Eric wrote:
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> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote in
>
>> It's 72 in air conditioner years.
>
> But another way to look at it is that they don't build them with the same
> quality anymore. How likely would a modern air conditioner last 36 years?
>
> And in fact this one is mostly still working. If you compare it with a new
> one, which of them is more likely to still be working 20 years later? This
> one, which will be 56 years old then, or a new one, which will be 20 years
> old then?
>
> The only obvious problem with this one is slow airflow. And of course the
> slow airflow causes it to freeze up on the hottest, most humid days. But
> most days it actually keeps the house cool, even with the slow airflow, if
> it's turned on early in the morning.
Actually it freezing up and causing low airflow. Call a Service Company
and get it serviced/repaired correctly.n
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> If nothing can be done to improve it, one cheap temporary solution is to
> get one or more cheap window air conditioners to supplement it, until
> sometime in the future when enough money becomes available to replace it.
> It's in an area where electric rates are relatively low, so efficiency is
> not a major concern.
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Posted by Noon-Air on May 23, 2008, 4:34 pm
> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote in
>> It's 72 in air conditioner years.
> But another way to look at it is that they don't build them with the same
> quality anymore. How likely would a modern air conditioner last 36 years?
> And in fact this one is mostly still working. If you compare it with a
> new
> one, which of them is more likely to still be working 20 years later?
> This
> one, which will be 56 years old then, or a new one, which will be 20 years
> old then?
> The only obvious problem with this one is slow airflow. And of course the
> slow airflow causes it to freeze up on the hottest, most humid days. But
> most days it actually keeps the house cool, even with the slow airflow, if
> it's turned on early in the morning.
> If nothing can be done to improve it, one cheap temporary solution is to
> get one or more cheap window air conditioners to supplement it, until
> sometime in the future when enough money becomes available to replace it.
> It's in an area where electric rates are relatively low, so efficiency is
> not a major concern.
It doesn't matter what your electric rates are, it doesn't matter what kind
of cheap SOB you are.... the big question is what are you gonna do when you
need R-22 or major system componants, and its no longer available or is cost
prohibitive??
http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
It will come to a point very soon where you will have 2 choices... either
replace the system, or do without.
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Posted by Zyp on May 24, 2008, 12:24 am
Eric wrote:
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> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote in
>> It's 72 in air conditioner years.
> But another way to look at it is that they don't build them with the
> same quality anymore. How likely would a modern air conditioner last
> 36 years?
> And in fact this one is mostly still working. If you compare it with
> a new one, which of them is more likely to still be working 20 years
> later? This one, which will be 56 years old then, or a new one,
> which will be 20 years old then?
> The only obvious problem with this one is slow airflow. And of
> course the slow airflow causes it to freeze up on the hottest, most
> humid days. But most days it actually keeps the house cool, even
> with the slow airflow, if it's turned on early in the morning.
> If nothing can be done to improve it, one cheap temporary solution is
> to get one or more cheap window air conditioners to supplement it,
> until sometime in the future when enough money becomes available to
> replace it. It's in an area where electric rates are relatively low,
> so efficiency is not a major concern.
OK, I'll bite. What's "slow air flow?"
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Zyp
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Posted by KJPRO on May 22, 2008, 1:26 pm
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>>> What do you do when you service one that has something older than
>>> R22, and find that it's low on coolant? Do you add whatever it had,
>>> or do you replace all the coolant with R22, or what?
>> You file for social security for it, and replace it. Maybe contact the
>> manufacturer and ask them if they need another piece for their museum.
> This one is only 36 years old. It would have to be 67 to qualify for
> social security.
Not true... it's considered "disabled" as it doesn't work anymore.
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> Suppose you were called to a house to work on a 36-year-old system, with a
> Heil gas furnace and a Heil condensor outside. Would you insist that it
> had to be replaced, even if the owner said there wasn't enough money to
> replace it?
It would be in their best interest, but hey, it's their money!
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> What if the owner said it worked fine, with only one minor symptom, that
> the airflow was too slow? In the winter the heat worked ok because it
> didn't need as much airflow as the A/C did.
I'd say they probably live in the southern states.
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> Would you just ignore the coolant and look for why the airflow was slow?
> Or what?
Or what...
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>> It's 72 in air conditioner years.
> But another way to look at it is that they don't build them with the same
> quality anymore. How likely would a modern air conditioner last 36 years?
> And in fact this one is mostly still working. If you compare it with a
> new
> one, which of them is more likely to still be working 20 years later?
> This
> one, which will be 56 years old then, or a new one, which will be 20 years
> old then?