Re: Bi-Flow Clean-up Filter Driers in Inverter Splits - Page 3

>Well finding this discussion on a talk - board does not make a good
>recommendation.

> The manufacturer still does not recommend it in their
>literature, and you haven't shown me where it says you can. You've only

>shown me a discussion on a newsgroup discussion between two. If you would
>have read your own posting here, it came with cautions. And it is dangerous
>to say the least to tell would be technicians they can use a LIQUID LINE
>FILTER DRIER in the hot gas discharge.
>Albeit your discussion eludes to using a suction gas filter drier in the hot
>gas discharge, which the manufacturer isn't going to recommend either. It's
>not designed for that purpose.

>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>>> One time, the parts house suggested a vapor line filter. it was
>>>>> rather short, and a very wide cross section. Looked like the
>>>>> filter had swollowed a pizza pie.
>>>>> Unlike the liquid line filters which look like a snake which has
>>>>> swollowed a wooden barrel.
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>>>>> .
>>>>> Have no idea what you talking about but if you check with
>>>>> drier OEMs you find out that filters are made for liquid filtering
>>>>> and not for gas, in gas line are ineficient and that is why are
>>>>> never install in gas lines, however you can install them any
>>>>> place you wish, filters are also made for suction lines oil return
>>>>> lines but not for gas lines in refrigeration systems.
>>>> Generally, after a compressor replacement, it is recommend that a
>>>> suction line filter drier be installed. If it's a burn out, a high
>>>> in carbon filter drier is used to help remove acidic particulate.
>>>> For the Old & Grumpy, the suction line contains vapor. It is
>>>> highly NOT recommended to put any desiccant drier in the hot gas
>>>> discharge line. Only in the liquid or suction lines.
>>> Not true. In fact, many units come stock with exactly that.
>>> And no, I don't mean the mufflers.
>>> Sporlan and Alco both approve them for discharge use.
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>> Really Paul;
>> I've seen several jobs where Sporlan driers were installed
>> incorrectly in the hot gas discharge [because the person perported
>> to 'know'] and, the result was a dissintigration of the drier's
>> contents. Funny how while the unit was running, you could hear the
>> material racing around the condenser.
>> Show me where Parker / Sporlan manufacturers' a drier for use in the
>> hot gas discharge line of a refrigeration system.
>>

> Here's the Prof himself, in public post ( more info there - go
> read it )
> http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1472.html
> "One can use a filter-drier, provided it is properly sized, in the
> discharge line. Two caveats here: (1) the filter-drier should be a
> core type, e.g., Sporlan Catch-All. It should not be a desiccant bead
> type. Compressor pulsations could tear apart these driers; (2) On
> light commercial or larger equipment, say greater than 5 tons, there
> are economic, sociopolitical, and some common sense engineering
> reasons not to do this :)
> You may be interested to know that York has applied Catch-All
> filter-driers to some of its residential heat pump systems in the
> common discharge line."
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>Are you assuming the liquid discharge line is the hot gas line? Are you
>sure? I'd like to see it. Give me a link.

>> Are you assuming the liquid discharge line is the hot gas line? Are
>> you sure? I'd like to see it. Give me a link.
> Umm.... do you know who I am ? Please find out before
> assuming that I can't tell a discharge line from a liquid line.
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>> As for the Sporlan dude., ok, he worked / or works for Sporlan.  Does that
>> mean his bosses wanted him to publicly say you can do what their literature
>> publicly says you shouldn't?  If they did, then it would be published in
>> their literature.
>But Andy doesn't say publicly that you can do it. He says publicly
>that you can do it conditionally.