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Re: Carrier Furnace Ignition Lockout - why? ftwhd 03-22-2008
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Posted by ftwhd on March 22, 2008, 3:33 pm
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:33:32 -0700 (PDT), ltravisjr@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Got a furnace problem that has me running in circles. Perhaps some
>quick advice can point me in the right direction at least. We have a
>Carrier furnace, older that 5 years old, and this year is has been
>failing to ignite, flashing error code 14 (ignition lockout) causing
>it to wait 3 hours before the next attempt. FYI here is the code
>legend:
>
>#14 default= ignition lockout, control will reset after 3 hours. Refer
>to #34.
>
>#34 default= ignition proving fault. Check for gas valve turned off,
>oxide build up on flame sensor, main shut valve turned off, Green wire
>must be connected to furnace sheet metal, proper flame sense microamps
>(.5 micro amps DC minimum), inadequit flame carry over or rough
>ignition, low inlet gas pressure.
>
>
>
>Now, a little history:
>1) Four years ago we had a crawlspace dug out and the project and the
>project went poorly, causing the basement to be exposed to excessive
>dust and moisture for much of that winter.
>2) This winter we began having trouble with the thermostat. The
>backlight would not light, it would display gibberish, and sometimes
>not display anything. Shortly thereafter we noticed that this
>behavior happened at the same time the furnace had the ignition
>lockout.
>3) We called an independent contractor and described the problems.
>The tech wasn't aware or (or wasn't concerned with) the codes and was
>only concerned with the thermostat. He indeed found and straightened
>some bent pins and we could notice a tighter fit when we closed the
>cover of the stat. He figured that solved the problem, and he never
>even looked at the furnace itself.
>4) A month later the lockout recurred, and the contractor sent another
>guy on the callback. The furnace had restarted by then so he didn't
>see the codes, and I don't think we mentioned them when we made the
>emergency call. Anyway, he was certain it was an overheating issue
>and when he went in he found the coil was *very* dirty (from the
>crawlspace project) and had to scrape it with cleaning solution.
>5) Now, another month later, the problem has returned.
>
>I don't know which direction to take this. I don't want to keep bring
>techs out who don't fix the root cause (whatever it is). Before I
>invest in another call, perhaps someone could tell me:
>- Could this problem really be caused by a defective stat or dirty
>coil? The stat HAS been loose and the coil HAS been dirty, but the
>error codes don't mention these, and don't seem to allude to them.
>For that matter, if the ignition is locked out, will it cause the stat
>to act funky when I use it? I don't want to pay for another scraping,
>or a new coil, if I don't have to.
>- If I call the techs back, after I make sure they are aware of the
>codes, what directions should I give them?
>- Is there anything I can check on my own fairly easily before
>resorting to another callback?
>
>Thanks for any advice,
>-Larry

I had a call on the same furnace as you have doing the same thing.
You have a cracked heat exchanger and need a new furnace and
thermostat.

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