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Posted by Noon-Air on December 22, 2007, 1:30 pm
> Poor Don,
> I suppose a 90% furnace makes you a bit nervous too.
> Let's bring back the days of 70% furnaces & 6 Seer A/C.
>
> I've never met anyone so afraid of heating with refrigerant.
> It's OK to face your fears... heat pumps, whether air source, water source
> or geothermal, are here to stay & are much more efficient.
> psst... they're starting to bypass hot gas & inject it into the compressor
> &
> heating efficiencies are going even higher...
> Don't worry though, these systems won't out number the current "old"
> technologies til long after we're both dead.
> And expanding on your logic, I'd guess they're inherently bad because of
> that, & the fact that the ranchers in SoDak don't use them either...
> Progress moves at the speed of a hearse.
>
> Since heating with Gas & Oils is a much older technology than the
> reversing
> valve in a refrigerant stream,
> I can understand why there are a few more of these systems around.
> Just because fireplaces are popular doesn't mean they're more efficient.
> Although if gas were the new kid on the block you'd, I'm sure, would be
> extolling the virtues of coal.
>
> If Geothermal in Ill. has 1% of the homes, I say hooray... That's a huge
> number.
> Considering my metro area, I'd have to say we're well under 1%, adding in
> the outstate might bring the total up to 1%, but I can't say for sure,
> What I can say is geothermal is very affordable & will pay for itself, if
> you use your head.
> Geothermal in the Arctic might need some consideration, but then again I'm
> not an expert on the Arctic.
> Vertical bores through granite might cost more that sand, but even this
> can
> be done.
> Please, just stop using theoretical quotes based on what you would charge
> to
> install a system that you don't like & seem to know very little about.
> (Insert retort of your motorcycling to Engineering school at USC back on
> the
> GI Bill)
>
>
> South Dakota has huge amounts of geothermal in operation as well as in
> construction.
> (I'm working on a campus project right now that serves all of the 40+
> buildings needs for heat with geothermal.)
> Up until Hydron was bought out, South Dakota had one of the best
> Geothermal
> units in the world built in state, Time will tell if the new owners will
> maintain quality.
> SDSU in Brookings has been one of the leaders in the study of geothermal.
> Unfortunately for MN, our design temps are colder & frost lines are
> deeper,
> but our geothermal works just fine thank you.
> (And yes we're colder than parts of Canada too... big statement
> considering
> we're north of Toronto)
>
> IF the cost of operation for a system is half of that of another, it will
> pay for itself, whether you base it on the total cost of the system or the
> cost difference between the two.
> Needless to say, in either case, the less efficient system will never pay
> for itself.
>
> Now feel free to tell me I'm full of shit & don't know a damn thing.
> I'm a big boy & I don't fear your flames, or progress...
>
> Merry Christmas to all.
>
> goodluck
> geothermaljones
> st.paul,mn
I guess he doesn't want to use hot water or steam either because water is a
refrigerant.
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