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Posted by Noon-Air on September 2, 2008, 12:06 pm
> KJPRO wrote:
>>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>>> You don't need an OEM contactor. In fact, there is no such
>>>>> thing. Get any brand, just match the specs, and size ( so it fits
>>>>> ). Think also about spare fan motors, inside and out, if you want
>>>>> to stock parts.
>>>>> Hi Paul, thanks for the answer. American Standard/Trane is mighty
>>>>> tight with it's repair info. You can't just go onto their
>>>>> website and download a repair manual with part specs. (or even an
>>>>> installation manual!)
>>>>> I think they try to make it impossible for customers to repair
>>>>> their own units by withholding information. (which is not
>>>>> necessarily a bad thing!)
>>>>> Is there an online HVAC supply house that knows what they're
>>>>> doing? I have had my fill of website operations that
>>>>> operate out of a phone booth, and promise the world while
>>>>> delivering excuses.
>>>>>> P.S. Skill level - automotive tech, but no residential air
>>>>>> equipment, so I probably can't recharge the system.
>>>>> No, but you can sure as hell run into town for parts,
>>>>> huh ? :-)
>>>>> Nope, that's why I posted this request instead of asking my
>>>>> original HVAC contractor. I have the 10 year warranty
>>>>> for the unit, but I don't think it covers stuff like the contactor
>>>>> or motor capacitor. I'm not trying to beat my contractor
>>>>> out of his livlihood -- I'm just trying to avoid a future 2 week
>>>>> wait in the hot sun while I could be back in business in a half
>>>>> hour or so by fixing simple problems myself.
>>>> Suggestion - take $ 250, buy a 10K window unit, store it in
>>>> the garage for when you need it to get you through.
>>>> --
>>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>>>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
>>> If you have the 10 year parts warranty, and know of a contractor who
>>> will honor it for you, it's highly likely he will have the needed
>>> contactor on his truck, and will only charge you the labor to
>>> install the needed part. If he's a Trane dealer, he'll handle the
>>> paperwork on the warranty for you. Give 'em a call.
>> The problem is, that he doesn't want to wait his turn for a service
>> call.
> I guess I could understand that. Particularly if you live near the coast
> of Louisiana.
My phone has been ringing off the hook all morning, but everybody wants
free, or at least cheap. One call was from a woman that had "Bubba" put in a
new system...ductwork and all for less than I would do a straight change-out
for... its never worked right, its less than 3 years old, and has the
compressor replaced, and a bunch of other stuff replaced.... now she is not
happy and still won't pay to get it done right.
Lots of others wanting a "new unit" and won't understand that I can't do
that without replacing the whole system....most still think they can get a
new system installed for 3 grand, and almost drop the phone when they get
told that its gonna be twice to 3 times that.
Sorry for the rant... just been onna phone all morning with a bunch of cheap
bastards.
--
Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
"Stop calling me for freebies Satan,
I'll fix your air conditioner when you pay me, Cheapskate!"
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Posted by KJPRO on September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm
>> KJPRO wrote:
>>>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>>>> You don't need an OEM contactor. In fact, there is no such
>>>>>> thing. Get any brand, just match the specs, and size ( so it fits
>>>>>> ). Think also about spare fan motors, inside and out, if you want
>>>>>> to stock parts.
>>>>>> Hi Paul, thanks for the answer. American Standard/Trane is mighty
>>>>>> tight with it's repair info. You can't just go onto their
>>>>>> website and download a repair manual with part specs. (or even an
>>>>>> installation manual!)
>>>>>> I think they try to make it impossible for customers to repair
>>>>>> their own units by withholding information. (which is not
>>>>>> necessarily a bad thing!)
>>>>>> Is there an online HVAC supply house that knows what they're
>>>>>> doing? I have had my fill of website operations that
>>>>>> operate out of a phone booth, and promise the world while
>>>>>> delivering excuses.
>>>>>>> P.S. Skill level - automotive tech, but no residential air
>>>>>>> equipment, so I probably can't recharge the system.
>>>>>> No, but you can sure as hell run into town for parts,
>>>>>> huh ? :-)
>>>>>> Nope, that's why I posted this request instead of asking my
>>>>>> original HVAC contractor. I have the 10 year warranty
>>>>>> for the unit, but I don't think it covers stuff like the contactor
>>>>>> or motor capacitor. I'm not trying to beat my contractor
>>>>>> out of his livlihood -- I'm just trying to avoid a future 2 week
>>>>>> wait in the hot sun while I could be back in business in a half
>>>>>> hour or so by fixing simple problems myself.
>>>>> Suggestion - take $ 250, buy a 10K window unit, store it in
>>>>> the garage for when you need it to get you through.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>>>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>>>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>>>>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
>>>> If you have the 10 year parts warranty, and know of a contractor who
>>>> will honor it for you, it's highly likely he will have the needed
>>>> contactor on his truck, and will only charge you the labor to
>>>> install the needed part. If he's a Trane dealer, he'll handle the
>>>> paperwork on the warranty for you. Give 'em a call.
>>> The problem is, that he doesn't want to wait his turn for a service
>>> call.
>> I guess I could understand that. Particularly if you live near the coast
>> of Louisiana.
> My phone has been ringing off the hook all morning, but everybody wants
> free, or at least cheap. One call was from a woman that had "Bubba" put in
> a new system...ductwork and all for less than I would do a straight
> change-out for... its never worked right, its less than 3 years old, and
> has the compressor replaced, and a bunch of other stuff replaced.... now
> she is not happy and still won't pay to get it done right.
> Lots of others wanting a "new unit" and won't understand that I can't do
> that without replacing the whole system....most still think they can get a
> new system installed for 3 grand, and almost drop the phone when they get
> told that its gonna be twice to 3 times that.
> Sorry for the rant... just been onna phone all morning with a bunch of
> cheap bastards.
Try a heat pump install for a grand... LMAO
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Posted by Bubba on September 2, 2008, 9:35 pm
>>> KJPRO wrote:
>>>>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>>>>> You don't need an OEM contactor. In fact, there is no such
>>>>>>> thing. Get any brand, just match the specs, and size ( so it fits
>>>>>>> ). Think also about spare fan motors, inside and out, if you want
>>>>>>> to stock parts.
>>>>>>> Hi Paul, thanks for the answer. American Standard/Trane is mighty
>>>>>>> tight with it's repair info. You can't just go onto their
>>>>>>> website and download a repair manual with part specs. (or even an
>>>>>>> installation manual!)
>>>>>>> I think they try to make it impossible for customers to repair
>>>>>>> their own units by withholding information. (which is not
>>>>>>> necessarily a bad thing!)
>>>>>>> Is there an online HVAC supply house that knows what they're
>>>>>>> doing? I have had my fill of website operations that
>>>>>>> operate out of a phone booth, and promise the world while
>>>>>>> delivering excuses.
>>>>>>>> P.S. Skill level - automotive tech, but no residential air
>>>>>>>> equipment, so I probably can't recharge the system.
>>>>>>> No, but you can sure as hell run into town for parts,
>>>>>>> huh ? :-)
>>>>>>> Nope, that's why I posted this request instead of asking my
>>>>>>> original HVAC contractor. I have the 10 year warranty
>>>>>>> for the unit, but I don't think it covers stuff like the contactor
>>>>>>> or motor capacitor. I'm not trying to beat my contractor
>>>>>>> out of his livlihood -- I'm just trying to avoid a future 2 week
>>>>>>> wait in the hot sun while I could be back in business in a half
>>>>>>> hour or so by fixing simple problems myself.
>>>>>> Suggestion - take $ 250, buy a 10K window unit, store it in
>>>>>> the garage for when you need it to get you through.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>>>>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>>>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>>>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>>>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>>>>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>>>>>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
>>>>> If you have the 10 year parts warranty, and know of a contractor who
>>>>> will honor it for you, it's highly likely he will have the needed
>>>>> contactor on his truck, and will only charge you the labor to
>>>>> install the needed part. If he's a Trane dealer, he'll handle the
>>>>> paperwork on the warranty for you. Give 'em a call.
>>>> The problem is, that he doesn't want to wait his turn for a service
>>>> call.
>>> I guess I could understand that. Particularly if you live near the coast
>>> of Louisiana.
>> My phone has been ringing off the hook all morning, but everybody wants
>> free, or at least cheap. One call was from a woman that had "Bubba" put in
>> a new system...ductwork and all for less than I would do a straight
>> change-out for... its never worked right, its less than 3 years old, and
>> has the compressor replaced, and a bunch of other stuff replaced.... now
>> she is not happy and still won't pay to get it done right.
>> Lots of others wanting a "new unit" and won't understand that I can't do
>> that without replacing the whole system....most still think they can get a
>> new system installed for 3 grand, and almost drop the phone when they get
>> told that its gonna be twice to 3 times that.
>> Sorry for the rant... just been onna phone all morning with a bunch of
>> cheap bastards.
>Try a heat pump install for a grand... LMAO
I hope all this doesnt keep up. I had a lady call me last week wanting
a "Free Estimate"?? I could tell by her tone that she was wanting a
Free Estimate on a repair. I told her I do Free Estimates on new
equipment installation (which I think still sucks). I dont do Free
Estimates on repairs. She asked what I charge an hour. I told her I
dont charge by the hour. I charge a Diagnostic Fee and then tell them
what if will cost to do the complete repair whether it takes 1 hr or 4
hrs. She seemed pleased that she didnt have to worry how long it would
take and how much the "suprise" would then cost her. She said she
would call back in a little bit.
She called back about an hour later, told me she had called me earlier
and again asked me if I give Free Estimates?????? I told her no and
she hung up...........hehe
Wouldnt that be fun if work got that slow that we started driving to
jobs for free , gave out free estimates and waited around till Mrs
Homeowner called back so we could fix her clogged condensate? hehehe
Ok, Im dont, Ranting over.
Bubba
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 2, 2008, 3:13 pm
No apology needed. We have that same kind of people around here.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Sorry for the rant... just been onna phone all morning with a bunch of cheap
bastards.
--
Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
"Stop calling me for freebies Satan,
I'll fix your air conditioner when you pay me, Cheapskate!"
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Posted by on September 2, 2008, 8:31 pm
wrote:
>My phone has been ringing off the hook all morning, but everybody wants
>free, or at least cheap. One call was from a woman that had "Bubba" put in a
>new system...ductwork and all for less than I would do a straight change-out
>for... its never worked right, its less than 3 years old, and has the
>compressor replaced, and a bunch of other stuff replaced.... now she is not
>happy and still won't pay to get it done right.
>Lots of others wanting a "new unit" and won't understand that I can't do
>that without replacing the whole system....most still think they can get a
>new system installed for 3 grand, and almost drop the phone when they get
>told that its gonna be twice to 3 times that.
>Sorry for the rant... just been onna phone all morning with a bunch of cheap
>bastards.
Amen to that brother!
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