Re: Stormy is a miserable hack but won't teach picking. Bravo.

Posted by Steve on April 5, 2007, 11:46 pm

> >> > Some folks exist on Usenet only to incite flame wars. It must be
> >> > a lonely existance.
> >> Stormy that would be you and I posted the evidence to support it. As

for

> > me

> >> I rarely crosspost anything but I made an exception for this because

> > sadly,

> >> people need to know you are not who you pretend to be, especially

people

> > you

> >> are giving your hack advice to. I am simply pointing out you are the
> >> dishonest hack you undeniably are. A few people may not know and may

try

> > to

> >> defend you. A few people may be fellow hacks and try to defend you. I

> > don't

> >> care. The former will learn and the opinions of the latter don't mean a

> > damn

> >> thing to me. Do you deny writing the following:

> > I will say Stormy, you have certainly shown your true colors more than
> > once.
> > You are not only a Hack, but a person that has no morals. Yet you claim

> > be a Mormon.
> > You are not only a disgrace to the internet world, but to your own
> > religion.
> > I hope one day you wake up and realized this BEFORE you end up KILLING
> > someone with your inaccurate and misguided information you leave for
> > people
> > to read.
> > I have said many times... you need to STFU and start reading and

learning.

> > If you actually possess the ability to learn something.

> I think you neglected to post some quote after "Do you deny writing the
> following:"?

He didn't neglect anything. I posted the quote. You either can't manage to
figure out what it is despite all the headers that were included with it or
want to pretend it doesn't exist since to defend the Mormon hack you would
have to be able to defend his actions and they are undefendable. Here it is
one more time. Want to tell me this shit is ok? Only a total POS HACKwould
do this. And only a moronic POS HACK would come to a public forum and admit
it.

> > Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
> > Subject: Re: anyone have experience using masterkeypro2006 ?
> > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:26:27 -0500
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> > Lines: 41
> > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Onlinehttp://www.rr.com
> > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> > Two works, in many cases. I did a MK in a factory where someone
> > had filed and ground the plugs. I ended up making a 4-step, and
> > even then I could jiggle a couple of the keys to get em to work
> > in different doors. I hope they never find out.

Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski on April 6, 2007, 2:11 am

message

> > >> > Some folks exist on Usenet only to incite flame wars. It must be
> > >> > a lonely existance.
> > >> Stormy that would be you and I posted the evidence to support it. As

> for

> > > me
> > >> I rarely crosspost anything but I made an exception for this because
> > > sadly,
> > >> people need to know you are not who you pretend to be, especially

> people

> > > you
> > >> are giving your hack advice to. I am simply pointing out you are the
> > >> dishonest hack you undeniably are. A few people may not know and may

> try

> > > to
> > >> defend you. A few people may be fellow hacks and try to defend you. I
> > > don't
> > >> care. The former will learn and the opinions of the latter don't mean

> > > damn
> > >> thing to me. Do you deny writing the following:
> > > I will say Stormy, you have certainly shown your true colors more than
> > > once.
> > > You are not only a Hack, but a person that has no morals. Yet you

claim

> to

> > > be a Mormon.
> > > You are not only a disgrace to the internet world, but to your own
> > > religion.
> > > I hope one day you wake up and realized this BEFORE you end up KILLING
> > > someone with your inaccurate and misguided information you leave for
> > > people
> > > to read.
> > > I have said many times... you need to STFU and start reading and

> learning.

> > > If you actually possess the ability to learn something.

> > I think you neglected to post some quote after "Do you deny writing the
> > following:"?

> He didn't neglect anything. I posted the quote. You either can't manage to
> figure out what it is despite all the headers that were included with it

> want to pretend it doesn't exist since to defend the Mormon hack you would
> have to be able to defend his actions and they are undefendable. Here it

> one more time. Want to tell me this shit is ok? Only a total POS HACKwould
> do this. And only a moronic POS HACK would come to a public forum and

admit

> it.

> > > Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
> > > Subject: Re: anyone have experience using masterkeypro2006 ?
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:26:27 -0500
> > > X-Priority: 3
> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
> > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> > > Lines: 41
> > > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Onlinehttp://www.rr.com
> > > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> > > Two works, in many cases. I did a MK in a factory where someone
> > > had filed and ground the plugs. I ended up making a 4-step, and
> > > even then I could jiggle a couple of the keys to get em to work
> > > in different doors. I hope they never find out.

Suggest go away now.

And also appreciate fucking take him with you.

--

Posted by Tim on April 6, 2007, 1:34 pm

I was browsing messages and found:

I had to read it twice. Then I had to check the original and make sure it
wasn't faked or that the quoting hadn't been changed. It isn't and wasn't.
Jesus Christ. I knew locksmiths did this kind of thing. I didn't think any
of them were stupid enough to admit it. Let me guess this idiot is one of
those 'fake' locksmiths ALOA talks about. Funny though how only one or two
people are condeming it now, or when it first appeared, and the rest of the
locksmiths seem to think this is alright. With only 1 or 2 out of a dozen or
more condeming it it must be standard locksmith practice. This is worse than
selling known flawed master key setups that can be attacked by the Matt
Blaze "rights amplification" attack, and known flawed locks that can be
bumped in 10 seconds flat. Now locksmiths are making master key systems that
just require a little jiggling of a regular key to make it a master key.
Anybody got any thing to say?

Posted by BogusID on April 6, 2007, 1:57 pm

> I was browsing messages and found:

>> > > Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
>> > > Subject: Re: anyone have experience using masterkeypro2006 ?
>> > > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:26:27 -0500
>> > > X-Priority: 3
>> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
>> > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
>> > > Lines: 41
>> > > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Onlinehttp://www.rr.com
>> > > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
>> > > Two works, in many cases. I did a MK in a factory where someone
>> > > had filed and ground the plugs. I ended up making a 4-step, and
>> > > even then I could jiggle a couple of the keys to get em to work
>> > > in different doors. I hope they never find out.

> I had to read it twice. Then I had to check the original and make sure it
> wasn't faked or that the quoting hadn't been changed. It isn't and wasn't.
> Jesus Christ. I knew locksmiths did this kind of thing. I didn't think any
> of them were stupid enough to admit it. Let me guess this idiot is one of
> those 'fake' locksmiths ALOA talks about. Funny though how only one or two
> people are condeming it now, or when it first appeared, and the rest of
> the
> locksmiths seem to think this is alright. With only 1 or 2 out of a dozen
> or
> more condeming it it must be standard locksmith practice. This is worse
> than
> selling known flawed master key setups that can be attacked by the Matt
> Blaze "rights amplification" attack, and known flawed locks that can be
> bumped in 10 seconds flat. Now locksmiths are making master key systems
> that
> just require a little jiggling of a regular key to make it a master key.
> Anybody got any thing to say?

I'd be morally bound to report such an observation to the client, and
recommend replacing the plugs if not the entire cylinders.

The problem occurs where the wallet meets the brass, and the client does a
15 second risk assessment (well we have not had losses yet) and declines
spending additional funds to fix it. This is especially true when someone in
accounting has a clamp on your wallet with thin budget parameters that fail
to take reality into consideration. Hmmmm there goes my new lobby camera.

As a businessman I'd go with the clients determination (probably with a
signed release from liability notation on the work order) .
You can forget about me eating $15 per plug to fix what someone else did,
thats not good business.

Posted by DB on April 6, 2007, 7:46 pm

> I was browsing messages and found:

No, Tim, it's not standard practice, and I suspect you know that. In every
profession and trade there are people who either don't know what they are
doing or who don't care. Stormin certainly appears to be one of them but
that doesn't reflect on anybody but him and I haven't seen anybody come out
and defend what he pulled.

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