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Re: Who Killed the Electric Car trailer PrecisionMachinisT 07-31-2006
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Posted by PrecisionMachinisT on July 31, 2006, 11:14 pm

> Now Americans dieing 10 thousand miles away for oil.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY&mode=related&search=

So just exactly is the electricity to power these things supposed to come
from ?

IOW, need to try charging one up overnight sometime using a coleman
generator or somesuch, and then report back to us with your MPG findings...

--

SVL






Posted by D Murphy on August 1, 2006, 1:21 am

>
>> Now Americans dieing 10 thousand miles away for oil.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY&mode=related&search=
>
> So just exactly is the electricity to power these things supposed to
> come from ?
>
> IOW, need to try charging one up overnight sometime using a coleman
> generator or somesuch, and then report back to us with your MPG
> findings...
>

There's that, low range per charge, and have you ever seen a defective
battery explode in a cell phone or laptop?

Just imagine being wrapped up in a giant rolling battery when it blows. Or
maybe it will happen while parked in the garage under the house while
you're snoozing away.

--

Dan

Scopulus est usquequaque nefas

Posted by PrecisionMachinisT on August 1, 2006, 1:42 am

>
> >
> >> Now Americans dieing 10 thousand miles away for oil.
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY&mode=related&search=
> >
> > So just exactly is the electricity to power these things supposed to
> > come from ?
> >
> > IOW, need to try charging one up overnight sometime using a coleman
> > generator or somesuch, and then report back to us with your MPG
> > findings...
> >
>
> There's that, low range per charge, and have you ever seen a defective
> battery explode in a cell phone or laptop?
>

Blew one up in my daughter's Lumina once...mosty was simply just a big
fucking mess to clean up...

>
> Just imagine being wrapped up in a giant rolling battery when it blows. Or
> maybe it will happen while parked in the garage under the house while
> you're snoozing away.
>

Looking over the electric car sites, I've yet to find any that see fit to
put upfront the total KWH / mile to be expected under any driving
conditions...

Nevermind how the electricity was actually transmitted into the vehicle's
batteries ( and at whatever the resistive losses in the power grid )...and
that the majority of US electrical production is STILL generated from fossil
fuels...

--

SVL





Posted by Protagonist on August 1, 2006, 4:18 am
PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
>>
>>>> Now Americans dieing 10 thousand miles away for oil.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY&mode=related&search=
>>> So just exactly is the electricity to power these things supposed to
>>> come from ?
>>>
>>> IOW, need to try charging one up overnight sometime using a coleman
>>> generator or somesuch, and then report back to us with your MPG
>>> findings...
>>>
>> There's that, low range per charge, and have you ever seen a defective
>> battery explode in a cell phone or laptop?
>>
>
> Blew one up in my daughter's Lumina once...mosty was simply just a big
> fucking mess to clean up...
>
>> Just imagine being wrapped up in a giant rolling battery when it blows. Or
>> maybe it will happen while parked in the garage under the house while
>> you're snoozing away.
>>
>
> Looking over the electric car sites, I've yet to find any that see fit to
> put upfront the total KWH / mile to be expected under any driving
> conditions...
>
> Nevermind how the electricity was actually transmitted into the vehicle's
> batteries ( and at whatever the resistive losses in the power grid )...and
> that the majority of US electrical production is STILL generated from fossil
> fuels...

You mean from Arab oil?!

>>About 30% of all fossil fuel consumed in the United States is used to
make electricity. Conversely, most electricity, about 70%, produced in
the US is generated using fossil fuels, especially coal. Typically, the
coal from one or more mines is transported by railroad or barge to a
steam generating plant. Turbine generators utilize the steam to generate
electricity at high voltage. This electricity is transformed (by a
transformer) to a higher voltage for transmission over a power network
to industrial, commercial and residential users. Near the users it is
transformed again, down to a low voltage, where it is distributed to the
users via the familiar distribution system of poles and overhead wires.

Electricity is distributed by 3 kinds of utilities -- investor owned,
municipal and cooperative. Many IOUs and municipals generate some of the
electricity they sell. Electricity is also generated by "generation and
transmission (G&T)" coops that are owned by groups of distribution
coops. Power is also generated by the federal government, especially
from dams, and by an increasing number of independent power producers.
Since deregulation began in 1992, a number of independent power
marketing firms have emerged as well.<<<
http://www.bydesign.com/fossilfuels/links/html/electricity/electric_production.html

Posted by Protagonist on August 1, 2006, 4:13 am
D Murphy wrote:
>
>>> Now Americans dieing 10 thousand miles away for oil.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY&mode=related&search=
>> So just exactly is the electricity to power these things supposed to
>> come from ?
>>
>> IOW, need to try charging one up overnight sometime using a coleman
>> generator or somesuch, and then report back to us with your MPG
>> findings...
>>
>
> There's that, low range per charge, and have you ever seen a defective
> battery explode in a cell phone or laptop?
>
> Just imagine being wrapped up in a giant rolling battery when it blows. Or
> maybe it will happen while parked in the garage under the house while
> you're snoozing away.
>

How about the batteries explode in the hybrid car??
Are you saying, hybrids don't have batteries?
JS

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