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Posted by ransley on June 30, 2008, 5:01 pm
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> >> Noon-Air wrote:
> >>>> KJPRO wrote:
> >>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
> >>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
> >>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
> >>>> BTW: =A0Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
> >>>> installations or replacements yet?
> >>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they want a=
> >>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
> >>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Zyp
> >> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're famillar wi=
> >> the job - as in a regular customer].
> >> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what it is=
> >> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is just
> >> getting out of control.
> > That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the price
> > shoppers.
> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be appli=
> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Quote FEE, If you had so much business you wouldnt be posting here, In
Chicago we are not ripped off by these charges, now if its for a load
calc, ok. You need to open althvac up and keep it up.
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Posted by Noon-Air on June 30, 2008, 11:54 pm
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> >> Noon-Air wrote:
> >>>> KJPRO wrote:
> >>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
> >>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
> >>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
> >>>> BTW: Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
> >>>> installations or replacements yet?
> >>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they want a
> >>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
> >>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Zyp
> >> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're famillar
> >> with
> >> the job - as in a regular customer].
> >> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what it is
> >> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is just
> >> getting out of control.
> > That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the price
> > shoppers.
> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be
> applied
> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Quote FEE, If you had so much business you wouldnt be posting here, In
Chicago we are not ripped off by these charges, now if its for a load
calc, ok. You need to open althvac up and keep it up.
Not "ripped off"?? but your willing to rip off tradesmen who are tryingto
earn an honest living. bite me. I don't put in 14 hours work days for free,
nor is my fuel or vehicle costs and expenses free. If you want to spend a
week driving around and spending hours with potential clients, and making
available the very best that you have to offer, and they only want the
lowest bidder, then be my guest.... you will be broke in short order. I bet
you would drop everything and come runnin for free on Sunday afternoon too.
Sorry sport, it takes money to run a business, and the customer pays for
*EVERYTHING*.
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Posted by KJPRO on July 1, 2008, 12:12 am
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>> >> Noon-Air wrote:
>> >>>> KJPRO wrote:
>> >>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
>> >>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
>> >>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
>> >>>> BTW: Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
>> >>>> installations or replacements yet?
>> >>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they want
>> >>> a
>> >>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
>> >>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Zyp
>> >> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're famillar
>> >> with
>> >> the job - as in a regular customer].
>> >> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what it
>> >> is
>> >> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is just
>> >> getting out of control.
>> > That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the price
>> > shoppers.
>> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be
>> applied
>> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> Quote FEE, If you had so much business you wouldnt be posting here, In
> Chicago we are not ripped off by these charges, now if its for a load
> calc, ok. You need to open althvac up and keep it up.
> Not "ripped off"?? but your willing to rip off tradesmen who are tryingto
> earn an honest living. bite me. I don't put in 14 hours work days for
> free, nor is my fuel or vehicle costs and expenses free. If you want to
> spend a week driving around and spending hours with potential clients, and
> making available the very best that you have to offer, and they only want
> the lowest bidder, then be my guest.... you will be broke in short order.
> I bet you would drop everything and come runnin for free on Sunday
> afternoon too. Sorry sport, it takes money to run a business, and the
> customer pays for *EVERYTHING*.
Yep
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Posted by Zyp on July 1, 2008, 1:27 am
KJPRO wrote:
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>>>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>>>>> KJPRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
>>>>>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
>>>>>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
>>>>>>> BTW: Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
>>>>>>> installations or replacements yet?
>>>>>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they
>>>>>> want a
>>>>>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
>>>>>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Zyp
>>>>> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're
>>>>> famillar with
>>>>> the job - as in a regular customer].
>>>>> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what
>>>>> it is
>>>>> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is
>>>>> just getting out of control.
>>>> That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the
>>>> price shoppers.
>>> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be
>>> applied
>>> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> Quote FEE, If you had so much business you wouldnt be posting here,
>> In Chicago we are not ripped off by these charges, now if its for a
>> load calc, ok. You need to open althvac up and keep it up.
>> Not "ripped off"?? but your willing to rip off tradesmen who are
>> tryingto earn an honest living. bite me. I don't put in 14 hours
>> work days for free, nor is my fuel or vehicle costs and expenses
>> free. If you want to spend a week driving around and spending hours
>> with potential clients, and making available the very best that you
>> have to offer, and they only want the lowest bidder, then be my
>> guest.... you will be broke in short order. I bet you would drop
>> everything and come runnin for free on Sunday afternoon too. Sorry
>> sport, it takes money to run a business, and the customer pays for
>> *EVERYTHING*.
> Yep
He'd better or I'd be broke.
Sounds interesting Noon-Air .... I've considered it. She wants to charge
$50. I thought $25. It usually takes around 2 hours to do a good look
over, talk, and write up.
--
Zyp
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Posted by Noon-Air on July 1, 2008, 8:46 am
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> KJPRO wrote:
>>>>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>>>>>> KJPRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
>>>>>>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
>>>>>>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
>>>>>>>> BTW: Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
>>>>>>>> installations or replacements yet?
>>>>>>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they
>>>>>>> want a
>>>>>>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
>>>>>>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Zyp
>>>>>> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're
>>>>>> famillar with
>>>>>> the job - as in a regular customer].
>>>>>> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is
>>>>>> just getting out of control.
>>>>> That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the
>>>>> price shoppers.
>>>> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be
>>>> applied
>>>> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Quote FEE, If you had so much business you wouldnt be posting here,
>>> In Chicago we are not ripped off by these charges, now if its for a
>>> load calc, ok. You need to open althvac up and keep it up.
>>> Not "ripped off"?? but your willing to rip off tradesmen who are
>>> tryingto earn an honest living. bite me. I don't put in 14 hours
>>> work days for free, nor is my fuel or vehicle costs and expenses
>>> free. If you want to spend a week driving around and spending hours
>>> with potential clients, and making available the very best that you
>>> have to offer, and they only want the lowest bidder, then be my
>>> guest.... you will be broke in short order. I bet you would drop
>>> everything and come runnin for free on Sunday afternoon too. Sorry
>>> sport, it takes money to run a business, and the customer pays for
>>> *EVERYTHING*.
>> Yep
> He'd better or I'd be broke.
> Sounds interesting Noon-Air .... I've considered it. She wants to charge
> $50. I thought $25. It usually takes around 2 hours to do a good look
> over, talk, and write up.
$25, and $50 for a consulting fee?? for 2 hours plus travel time, truck
notes, insurance, maintenance, repairs, fuel, the drivers time?? somebody
is living in an alternate universe.
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> >>>> KJPRO wrote:
> >>>>>> If you want to help, provide information, not red herrings.
> >>>>> If you want help, why not call someone in your area?
> >>>> Because that might have a cost compenent attached to it.
> >>>> BTW: =A0Noon-Air, are you charging $$$ for estimates on system
> >>>> installations or replacements yet?
> >>> Estimates are what I tell them over the phone for free. If they want a=
> >>> written quote, then thats gonna cost them.
> >>>> Most auto body shops do, and you have to go to them.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Zyp
> >> We genrally won't give a quote over the phone [unless we're famillar wi=
> >> the job - as in a regular customer].
> >> But damn, the price of fuel, the two hours to go out and see what it is=
> >> they have, and what it is they want to do, and then write it is just
> >> getting out of control.
> > That's why charging for a quote makes sense... it gets rid of the price
> > shoppers.
> It also makes sense that the quote fee is non-refundable, but can be appli=
> to the purchase of a new system from my company.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -