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Posted by Noon-Air on April 16, 2008, 7:45 am
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> Yes, I have seen the costs of copper, glycol, R-22, and I love how
> everybody blams high prices on materials.
> 1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
> 50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135
Where is this??? I just paid over $200 for a 30lb can.
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> 5 gallons of Glycol is $155 (60 feet of 1 1/4" pipe at 50% mix is
> approx 2 gallons)
> Hangers and ceiling anchors approx $100
> So thats $870 in materials, for a job quoted at $9800.
> And the job is running two pipes 30 feet, with a couple of 90 degree
> bends, maybe 10 sweated connections on total. A two man crew should be
> able to finish this is 2 days.
> So in my honest opinion, $9800 is an absurd price. They did the job
> for $5200 3 months prior, and I doubt they lost money on the deal.
So tell me, how is somebody supposed to run a business and make a profit if
we do the work for half the price?? Every year there are 19,000 heating and
a/c contractors that go out of business because they didn't charge enough,
Theydidn't understand the business of running a business. Now your saying
that because the contractor has figured this out, his price is obsurd?? Go
find you another contractor at Walmart....I hear they got them cheap chinese
ones on sale this week.
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>> > My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>> > unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>> > Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>> > the tie-in location.
>> > Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>> > want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>> > Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
>> > of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>> > loop.
>> > I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>> > and the rest is labor/profit.
>> Have you seen the prices of copper, glycol, and R-22 lately???
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Posted by KJPRO on April 17, 2008, 1:02 pm
>> Yes, I have seen the costs of copper, glycol, R-22, and I love how
>> everybody blams high prices on materials.
>> 1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
>> 50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135
> Where is this??? I just paid over $200 for a 30lb can.
<snip>
Ebay, where else? Hehehe...
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Posted by KJPRO on April 18, 2008, 12:12 am
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> KJPRO wrote:
>>>> Yes, I have seen the costs of copper, glycol, R-22, and I love how
>>>> everybody blams high prices on materials.
>>>> 1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
>>>> 50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135
>>> Where is this??? I just paid over $200 for a 30lb can.
>> Ebay, where else? Hehehe...
> Huh! uh! Best price is from the Propane dealer down the street.. Gotta
> make your own labels though. And if you want a real deal.. Try the
> Butane.. ;-p
Don't knock it, that butane is some great stuff!!!!! :-)
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on April 16, 2008, 9:18 pm
And copper.
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>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>> Have you seen the prices of copper, glycol, and R-22 lately???
I think you had better recheck your R22 costs.
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Posted by Bubba on April 17, 2008, 7:42 am
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>Yes, I have seen the costs of copper, glycol, R-22, and I love how
>everybody blams high prices on materials.
>1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
>50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135
>5 gallons of Glycol is $155 (60 feet of 1 1/4" pipe at 50% mix is
>approx 2 gallons)
>Hangers and ceiling anchors approx $100
>So thats $870 in materials, for a job quoted at $9800.
>And the job is running two pipes 30 feet, with a couple of 90 degree
>bends, maybe 10 sweated connections on total. A two man crew should be
>able to finish this is 2 days.
>So in my honest opinion, $9800 is an absurd price. They did the job
>for $5200 3 months prior, and I doubt they lost money on the deal.
If its so damn easy John, then why dont you just do it yourself?
If the hvac guys are charging what you think is way too much then why
dont you open up your own shop and tell us how much money you arent
making in a year?
Life's a bitch but when you want the comvienence of picking up the
phone, calling someone and having them do all the work start to finish
its going to cost you. I hope you dont have a wrist cramp writing the
check.
Bite me!
Bubba
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>> > My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>> > unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>> > Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>> > the tie-in location.
>> > Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>> > want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>> > Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
>> > of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>> > loop.
>> > I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>> > and the rest is labor/profit.
>> Have you seen the prices of copper, glycol, and R-22 lately???
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> everybody blams high prices on materials.
> 1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
> 50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135