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Reasonable price for glycol loop tie-in... essenz 04-15-2008
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Posted by Noon-Air on April 17, 2008, 9:39 am

> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>> My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>>>> unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>>>>
>>>> Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>>>> the tie-in location.
>>>>
>>>> Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>>>> want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>>>>
>>>> Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
>>>> of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>>>> loop.
>>>>
>>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>>>>
>>>> -john
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you priced anything else that you bought a year ago????
>>>
>>> If not, just think about gasoline or diesel...
>>> Things are going up... EXTREMELY!!!!!!!
>>
>>Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30 and
>>is
>>supposed to go up again this week.
>>
>>If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my prices
>>again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it. Even
>>"Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having to
>>support his business.
>
> Oh, I think that left me a little mark. :-)
> I wish she would support me. Then I'd quit and let her do it all.
> Bubba

Sorry my friend... I was refering to the *local* "Bubba" and
"Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" that finally went from $50 for a service call all the
way up to $60!! Yes we have a contractor down here who's nam really is
Bubba...He's the local Carrier dealer.

At $75, I am still loosing a bunch of money, but nobody wants to pay the
*REAL* cost of putting a truck on the road, and getting the tech to the
service call. At last calculation, that was right at $167.00 just to break
even......and thats even before the tech gets out of the truck. Right now
with the current state of the economy, My calls are way down, and my gross
profit is less than $200 for the year. I don't see it getting any better any
time soon.

If the OP wants to whine and snivel because his contractor has to charge
what it takes for him to keep his doors open, then he can do it himself,
then call the contractor to come back and straighten out the mess at TWICE
the price.


Posted by KJPRO on April 17, 2008, 1:00 pm

>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>>>>> unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>>>>> the tie-in location.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>>>>> want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
>>>>> of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>>>>> loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>>>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>>>>>
>>>>> -john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you priced anything else that you bought a year ago????
>>>>
>>>> If not, just think about gasoline or diesel...
>>>> Things are going up... EXTREMELY!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30 and
>>>is
>>>supposed to go up again this week.
>>>
>>>If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my prices
>>>again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it. Even
>>>"Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having to
>>>support his business.
>>
>> Oh, I think that left me a little mark. :-)
>> I wish she would support me. Then I'd quit and let her do it all.
>> Bubba
>
> Sorry my friend... I was refering to the *local* "Bubba" and
> "Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" that finally went from $50 for a service call all the
> way up to $60!! Yes we have a contractor down here who's nam really is
> Bubba...He's the local Carrier dealer.
>
> At $75, I am still loosing a bunch of money, but nobody wants to pay the
> *REAL* cost of putting a truck on the road, and getting the tech to the
> service call. At last calculation, that was right at $167.00 just to break
> even......and thats even before the tech gets out of the truck. Right now
> with the current state of the economy, My calls are way down, and my gross
> profit is less than $200 for the year.
<snip>



Profit? You're making a PROFIT?????????

:-)



Posted by Noon-Air on April 17, 2008, 4:08 pm

>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>>>>>> unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>>>>>> the tie-in location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>>>>>> want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like
>>>>>> alot
>>>>>> of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>>>>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you priced anything else that you bought a year ago????
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, just think about gasoline or diesel...
>>>>> Things are going up... EXTREMELY!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30
>>>>and is
>>>>supposed to go up again this week.
>>>>
>>>>If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my prices
>>>>again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it. Even
>>>>"Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having to
>>>>support his business.
>>>
>>> Oh, I think that left me a little mark. :-)
>>> I wish she would support me. Then I'd quit and let her do it all.
>>> Bubba
>>
>> Sorry my friend... I was refering to the *local* "Bubba" and
>> "Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" that finally went from $50 for a service call all the
>> way up to $60!! Yes we have a contractor down here who's nam really is
>> Bubba...He's the local Carrier dealer.
>>
>> At $75, I am still loosing a bunch of money, but nobody wants to pay the
>> *REAL* cost of putting a truck on the road, and getting the tech to the
>> service call. At last calculation, that was right at $167.00 just to
>> break even......and thats even before the tech gets out of the truck.
>> Right now with the current state of the economy, My calls are way down,
>> and my gross profit is less than $200 for the year.
> <snip>
>
>
>
> Profit? You're making a PROFIT?????????
>
> :-)

yup...after taxes, I can buy a 6 pack :-)


Posted by Noon-Air on April 18, 2008, 12:05 am

> Noon-Air wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>>>>>>>> unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the tie-in location.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like
>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>> of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an
>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for
>>>>>>>> R-22,
>>>>>>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -john
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you priced anything else that you bought a year ago????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, just think about gasoline or diesel...
>>>>>>> Things are going up... EXTREMELY!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30
>>>>>> and is
>>>>>> supposed to go up again this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my
>>>>>> prices
>>>>>> again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it.
>>>>>> Even
>>>>>> "Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> support his business.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I think that left me a little mark. :-)
>>>>> I wish she would support me. Then I'd quit and let her do it all.
>>>>> Bubba
>>>>
>>>> Sorry my friend... I was refering to the *local* "Bubba" and
>>>> "Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" that finally went from $50 for a service call all
>>>> the way up to $60!! Yes we have a contractor down here who's nam really
>>>> is Bubba...He's the local Carrier dealer.
>>>>
>>>> At $75, I am still loosing a bunch of money, but nobody wants to pay
>>>> the *REAL* cost of putting a truck on the road, and getting the tech to
>>>> the service call. At last calculation, that was right at $167.00 just
>>>> to break even......and thats even before the tech gets out of the
>>>> truck. Right now with the current state of the economy, My calls are
>>>> way down, and my gross profit is less than $200 for the year.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Profit? You're making a PROFIT?????????
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> yup...after taxes, I can buy a 6 pack :-)
>
> If you drink with a customer, that is deductible.. ;-p

Nope... the customer provides the bullets, and I bring the beer :D


Posted by KJPRO on April 17, 2008, 12:58 pm

>
>>
>>> My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
>>> unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
>>>
>>> Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
>>> the tie-in location.
>>>
>>> Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
>>> want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
>>>
>>> Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
>>> of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
>>> loop.
>>>
>>> I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
>>> and the rest is labor/profit.
>>>
>>> -john
>>
>>
>> Have you priced anything else that you bought a year ago????
>>
>> If not, just think about gasoline or diesel...
>> Things are going up... EXTREMELY!!!!!!!
>
> Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30 and
> is supposed to go up again this week.
>
> If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my prices
> again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it. Even
> "Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having to
> support his business.


Here, Diesel is $4.29 with gasoline at $3.49...
Things are going to get ugly!!!!!





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