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Posted by purplefringe on July 29, 2006, 1:09 am
I have an AC question if someone would mind to take a stab at it.
I live in Brooklyn, NY. Iıve lived in the current apartment for many years:
the building is old, World War II era and is wired with solid copper wire
insulated by a hard black insulator (looks like a totally oxidized black
rubber) and the outside is enclosed by a cloth sheath. As you can imagine due
to its age, much of the wiringıs insulator is hard and when handled cracks
and crumbles. The apartment (a VERY large place, 3 bathrooms) is wired for
what I assume was a minimal electrical/appliance usage for the era and as
such the rooms only have 2 electrical outlets each.
Itıs my apartment and four of us live here.
I do not use an AC unit because of the amperage draw. One of my roommates got
an AC unit last summer and did not heed my warning to research start/run
amperage draw for various AC units. She just went to PC Richards and bought
one, I assume on looks and price. Her room is connected to one of the kitchen
circuits and other room circuits. When the AC runs and someone uses the
kitchen toaster or coffee maker, the breaker (15amp) pops off.
An inconvenience, but if she can live with continual interrupted electricity
(and if one other roommate can endure it as well as he shares a circuit with
her) than so be it. If push comes to shove Iıll demand she either get rid of
the AC unit altogether or replace it with one that has a lower amperage draw.
A big pain in the butt at best.
However, today I come home to a bombshell: another roommate informs me that
she has ALSO bought an AC unit. I had casually mentioned to her in the past
about amperage ratings etc., but she apparently chose to ignore or disregard
the info. Her room looks also connected to this circuit and when I came home
she informed me that the breaker with 2 AC units was popping off every ten
minutes.
At this point Iım going to tell her that she will have to return her unit and
live with a fan like I do.
However, I was wondering if someone who knows the products currently
manufactured can recommend an AC unit that has amongst the lowest start
up/run amperage of the models available (what would be responsible for the
circuit breaker going off, the run voltage??). The rooms are approximately
1400 cubic feet in size. Iım looking for a unit that will modestly cool the
rooms (it does NOT have to do an arctic freeze as my roommates will have to
settle for what can function in the apartment). The apartment is wired for
110V. Price is not an object as I will not be dishing out the money (though
lower prices units are more desirable).
Any ideas?
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Posted by Al Moran on July 29, 2006, 1:23 am
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:09:19 GMT, purplefringe
>Any ideas?
Yeah, shoot yourself you cheap ass fuck before they do. Ever heard of
an electrician?
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Posted by purplefringe on July 29, 2006, 3:12 am
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:23:37 -0400, Al Moran wrote
> Yeah, shoot yourself you cheap ass fuck before they do. Ever heard of
> an electrician?
I have heard of them and maybe one who has been around can suggest low
amperage load AC units....that's all I'm looking for.
OTOH, yes my landlord is not only cheap, he's a certified slumlord and the
one time he hired an electrician ...to do an electrical upgrade in the
building ... he ripped the guy off and never paid him. He will upgrade and/or
approve an upgrade only with a gun to his head and then with great
reluctance.
Thanks for the kind words...
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Posted by Al Moran on July 29, 2006, 10:35 am
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:12:28 GMT, purplefringe
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:23:37 -0400, Al Moran wrote
>
>> Yeah, shoot yourself you cheap ass fuck before they do. Ever heard of
>> an electrician?
>
>I have heard of them and maybe one who has been around can suggest low
>amperage load AC units....that's all I'm looking for.
> OTOH, yes my landlord is not only cheap, he's a certified slumlord and the
>one time he hired an electrician ...to do an electrical upgrade in the
>building ... he ripped the guy off and never paid him. He will upgrade and/or
>approve an upgrade only with a gun to his head and then with great
>reluctance.
>
>
>Thanks for the kind words...
Fuck off. According to you "It's my apartment..."
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 29, 2006, 8:44 am
Breakers trip because the appliances use too much amperage. That's
what they are designed to do.
An AC with either smaller BTU rating, or a rotary compressor should
draw less amperage. The amperage should be listed in the literature
some where with the unit. Or on a sticker on the unit.
The answer appears to be twofold. First, you need a time sharing
schedule for the power. AC may only be run while the person is home,
and they trade off every half hour. Person one gets the power from 00
to 30 minutes, and person two gets from 30 to 60.
Second, the toaster and coffee maker simply must go. Either that, or
they need their own designated hour.
As an alternative, folks with AC can be kind, and leave the door open
while AC running, and fan in the doorway. Or the AC can be put in a
common area to benefit everyone.
Have you considered asking the landlord permission to hire your own
electrician, and pay him yourself? A couple new circuits sound like a
good idea.
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.
I have an AC question if someone would mind to take a stab at it.
I live in Brooklyn, NY. Iıve lived in the current apartment for many
years:
the building is old, World War II era and is wired with solid copper
wire
insulated by a hard black insulator (looks like a totally oxidized
black
rubber) and the outside is enclosed by a cloth sheath. As you can
imagine due
to its age, much of the wiringıs insulator is hard and when handled
cracks
and crumbles. The apartment (a VERY large place, 3 bathrooms) is wired
for
what I assume was a minimal electrical/appliance usage for the era and
as
such the rooms only have 2 electrical outlets each.
Itıs my apartment and four of us live here.
I do not use an AC unit because of the amperage draw. One of my
roommates got
an AC unit last summer and did not heed my warning to research
start/run
amperage draw for various AC units. She just went to PC Richards and
bought
one, I assume on looks and price. Her room is connected to one of the
kitchen
circuits and other room circuits. When the AC runs and someone uses
the
kitchen toaster or coffee maker, the breaker (15amp) pops off.
An inconvenience, but if she can live with continual interrupted
electricity
(and if one other roommate can endure it as well as he shares a
circuit with
her) than so be it. If push comes to shove Iıll demand she either get
rid of
the AC unit altogether or replace it with one that has a lower
amperage draw.
A big pain in the butt at best.
However, today I come home to a bombshell: another roommate informs me
that
she has ALSO bought an AC unit. I had casually mentioned to her in
the past
about amperage ratings etc., but she apparently chose to ignore or
disregard
the info. Her room looks also connected to this circuit and when I
came home
she informed me that the breaker with 2 AC units was popping off every
ten
minutes.
At this point Iım going to tell her that she will have to return her
unit and
live with a fan like I do.
However, I was wondering if someone who knows the products currently
manufactured can recommend an AC unit that has amongst the lowest
start
up/run amperage of the models available (what would be responsible for
the
circuit breaker going off, the run voltage??). The rooms are
approximately
1400 cubic feet in size. Iım looking for a unit that will modestly
cool the
rooms (it does NOT have to do an arctic freeze as my roommates will
have to
settle for what can function in the apartment). The apartment is wired
for
110V. Price is not an object as I will not be dishing out the money
(though
lower prices units are more desirable).
Any ideas?
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