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Replacement for Carrier multi-zone control Peter Pearson 09-08-2006
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Posted by Peter Pearson on September 8, 2006, 4:42 pm
My Carrier Comfort Zone Center appears to have failed, and
I'm trying to educate myself on replacement options. My
local furnace shop says they don't make these any more and
a replacement controller will cost $2946 if we can use the
existing temperature sensors. That seems like a lot.

Here's the equipment running my 4-zone system, which
really ought to be a 5-zone system but maybe they didn't
make those when this system was installed, apparently
in 1991 (I moved here in 2004):

Carrier Crusade gas furnace
Carrier Comfort Zone Center control box near furnace
Carrier Comfort Zone 4-zone controller/timeclock
Zone dampers: PEI / AirPax

In case anyone cares about the problem motivating this
questions: The "Carrier Comfort Zone Center" is mounted on
studs near the furnace, gets 24 volts AC from the furnace,
and is supposed to supply 10 volts DC to the thermostat,
but instead supplies a voltage varying between 6 and 7
volts with a regular period of about 0.5 second. The
circuit boards in the "Comfort Zone Center" look clean,
and no components are smoking, oozing, or making crackling
noises.

So,
1. Should I pay $2934 to replace this controller?
2. Should I consider the style of controller that
takes input from four thermostats, instead
of reading four actual temperature sensors itself?
3. Should I be looking at X-10 systems? RS485? Can
I get something that plugs into my house's ethernet
and provides a browser-based interface?

Much appreciative of suggestions, observations, and even
illuminating insults.

--

To email me, substitute
nowhere -> spamcop
invalid -> net

Posted by Al Moran on September 8, 2006, 9:51 pm
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:42:08 GMT, Peter Pearson


>Much appreciative of suggestions, observations, and even
>illuminating insults.


Ok, go the hell away, no one cares.

Posted by PrecisionMachinisT on September 9, 2006, 12:49 am

> My Carrier Comfort Zone Center appears to have failed, and
> I'm trying to educate myself on replacement options. My
> local furnace shop says they don't make these any more and
> a replacement controller will cost $2946 if we can use the
> existing temperature sensors. That seems like a lot.
>
> Here's the equipment running my 4-zone system, which
> really ought to be a 5-zone system but maybe they didn't
> make those when this system was installed, apparently
> in 1991 (I moved here in 2004):
>
> Carrier Crusade gas furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone Center control box near furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone 4-zone controller/timeclock
> Zone dampers: PEI / AirPax
>
> In case anyone cares about the problem motivating this
> questions: The "Carrier Comfort Zone Center" is mounted on
> studs near the furnace, gets 24 volts AC from the furnace,
> and is supposed to supply 10 volts DC to the thermostat,
> but instead supplies a voltage varying between 6 and 7
> volts with a regular period of about 0.5 second. The
> circuit boards in the "Comfort Zone Center" look clean,
> and no components are smoking, oozing, or making crackling
> noises.
>
> So,
> 1. Should I pay $2934 to replace this controller?
> 2. Should I consider the style of controller that
> takes input from four thermostats, instead
> of reading four actual temperature sensors itself?
> 3. Should I be looking at X-10 systems? RS485? Can
> I get something that plugs into my house's ethernet
> and provides a browser-based interface?
>
> Much appreciative of suggestions, observations, and even
> illuminating insults.
>

Just operate the dampers manually, you lazy fuck.

--

SVL




Posted by Bennett Price on September 9, 2006, 12:23 pm
If the only problem is that you don't have 10VDC to the stats, consider
a plug-in-the-wall power supply of the sort used to power CD players,
modems, and the like. Available at Radio Shack.

Peter Pearson wrote:
> My Carrier Comfort Zone Center appears to have failed, and
> I'm trying to educate myself on replacement options. My
> local furnace shop says they don't make these any more and
> a replacement controller will cost $2946 if we can use the
> existing temperature sensors. That seems like a lot.
>
> Here's the equipment running my 4-zone system, which
> really ought to be a 5-zone system but maybe they didn't
> make those when this system was installed, apparently
> in 1991 (I moved here in 2004):
>
> Carrier Crusade gas furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone Center control box near furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone 4-zone controller/timeclock
> Zone dampers: PEI / AirPax
>
> In case anyone cares about the problem motivating this
> questions: The "Carrier Comfort Zone Center" is mounted on
> studs near the furnace, gets 24 volts AC from the furnace,
> and is supposed to supply 10 volts DC to the thermostat,
> but instead supplies a voltage varying between 6 and 7
> volts with a regular period of about 0.5 second. The
> circuit boards in the "Comfort Zone Center" look clean,
> and no components are smoking, oozing, or making crackling
> noises.
>
> So,
> 1. Should I pay $2934 to replace this controller?
> 2. Should I consider the style of controller that
> takes input from four thermostats, instead
> of reading four actual temperature sensors itself?
> 3. Should I be looking at X-10 systems? RS485? Can
> I get something that plugs into my house's ethernet
> and provides a browser-based interface?
>
> Much appreciative of suggestions, observations, and even
> illuminating insults.
>
> --
>
> To email me, substitute
> nowhere -> spamcop
> invalid -> net

Posted by Jabs on September 9, 2006, 5:00 pm
Peter,
Before I can help you; What is the model number of your Carrier Comfort Zone
4-zone controller/timeclock.

Jabs



> My Carrier Comfort Zone Center appears to have failed, and
> I'm trying to educate myself on replacement options. My
> local furnace shop says they don't make these any more and
> a replacement controller will cost $2946 if we can use the
> existing temperature sensors. That seems like a lot.
>
> Here's the equipment running my 4-zone system, which
> really ought to be a 5-zone system but maybe they didn't
> make those when this system was installed, apparently
> in 1991 (I moved here in 2004):
>
> Carrier Crusade gas furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone Center control box near furnace
> Carrier Comfort Zone 4-zone controller/timeclock
> Zone dampers: PEI / AirPax
>
> In case anyone cares about the problem motivating this
> questions: The "Carrier Comfort Zone Center" is mounted on
> studs near the furnace, gets 24 volts AC from the furnace,
> and is supposed to supply 10 volts DC to the thermostat,
> but instead supplies a voltage varying between 6 and 7
> volts with a regular period of about 0.5 second. The
> circuit boards in the "Comfort Zone Center" look clean,
> and no components are smoking, oozing, or making crackling
> noises.
>
> So,
> 1. Should I pay $2934 to replace this controller?
> 2. Should I consider the style of controller that
> takes input from four thermostats, instead
> of reading four actual temperature sensors itself?
> 3. Should I be looking at X-10 systems? RS485? Can
> I get something that plugs into my house's ethernet
> and provides a browser-based interface?
>
> Much appreciative of suggestions, observations, and even
> illuminating insults.
>
> --
>
> To email me, substitute
> nowhere -> spamcop
> invalid -> net



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