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Replacing Heating and Air - Amana Units davidchan157 11-29-2006
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Posted by on November 29, 2006, 3:26 am
Got a quote from a contractor to replace my central air and heating.
Wondering what you guys think. I am in the Southern California/Los
Angeles Area, single story, 2000 sf home. They are proposing to use
Amana 14 SEER Prestige RCE60C2C and AMS81155CNA 80% Gas Furnace. Are
these good units?

The quote was $9500. Work includes:

- removal of existing furnace in closet and package unit on roof
- remove and replace all existing ductwork (half of attic is very
shallow with limited access, about 2-3 feet tall, the other half is
about 6 feet)
- install new furnace in attic

Is this a reasonable price?

I know nothing about HVAC, but reading through the specs for the
RCE60C2C, there seems to be no performance rating (SEER) for the
combination of the RCE60C2C and the AMS81155CNA. Will this still
provide 14 SEER?


Posted by daytona° on November 29, 2006, 7:13 am
Just went through this with my brother-in-law from Pasadena and I am in
Western PA....ONE hell of a price difference from East to West. But for as
mush as the A/C runs, I personally would be looking into a higher SEER A/C
system. And I finally realized, it does not get really cold there....so the
heating furnace can be an 80% unit
SEER ratings can go as high a 18 now...some maybe higher. But they cost
more, but the savings in rewarding in the end

> Got a quote from a contractor to replace my central air and heating.
> Wondering what you guys think. I am in the Southern California/Los
> Angeles Area, single story, 2000 sf home. They are proposing to use
> Amana 14 SEER Prestige RCE60C2C and AMS81155CNA 80% Gas Furnace. Are
> these good units?
>
> The quote was $9500. Work includes:
>
> - removal of existing furnace in closet and package unit on roof
> - remove and replace all existing ductwork (half of attic is very
> shallow with limited access, about 2-3 feet tall, the other half is
> about 6 feet)
> - install new furnace in attic
>
> Is this a reasonable price?
>
> I know nothing about HVAC, but reading through the specs for the
> RCE60C2C, there seems to be no performance rating (SEER) for the
> combination of the RCE60C2C and the AMS81155CNA. Will this still
> provide 14 SEER?
>



Posted by udarrell on November 29, 2006, 10:29 am
daytona° wrote:

>Just went through this with my brother-in-law from Pasadena and I am in
>Western PA....ONE hell of a price difference from East to West. But for as
>mush as the A/C runs, I personally would be looking into a higher SEER A/C
>system. And I finally realized, it does not get really cold there....so the
>heating furnace can be an 80% unit
>SEER ratings can go as high a 18 now...some maybe higher. But they cost
>more, but the savings in rewarding in the end
>
>
>
>>Got a quote from a contractor to replace my central air and heating.
>>Wondering what you guys think. I am in the Southern California/Los
>>Angeles Area, single story, 2000 sf home. They are proposing to use
>>Amana 14 SEER Prestige RCE60C2C and AMS81155CNA 80% Gas Furnace. Are
>>these good units?
>>
>>The quote was $9500. Work includes:
>>- removal of existing furnace in closet and package unit on roof
>>- remove and replace all existing ductwork (half of attic is very
>>shallow with limited access, about 2-3 feet tall, the other half is
>>about 6 feet)
>>- install new furnace in attic
>>Is this a reasonable price?
>>I know nothing about HVAC, but reading through the specs for the
>>RCE60C2C, there seems to be no performance rating (SEER) for the
>>combination of the RCE60C2C and the AMS81155CNA. Will this still
>>provide 14 SEER
>>
The Los Angeles, CA area Summer Design is 89F-dry bulb, 70F-wet bulb,
39% RH rather dry, therefore a light latent load.
How much run-time do you have in the LA area; 600 to 700 hours a year?
Low run-time, Low savings to initial SEER costs!
A 13 or 14-SEER system ought to be a good choice depending on electric
rates.
Do everything you can to reduce the heat-gain heat-loss, then do a
Manual J for the load & D for the ductwork!
Do NOT oversize the system! - udarrell

--
PROPER A/C UNIT & DUCTWORK Sizing is over 70% of Operating Efficiency
http://www.udarrell.com/proper_cfm_btuh_duct_sizing_air_conditioning_systems.html

Air Conditioning Installations Now Produce 95% Failure Rate
http://www.eeba.org/conference/2004/presentations/Proctor1.pdf

Solving - External Static Pressure (ESP)
http://www.udarrell.com/udarrell-air-conditioning.html

Posted by Steve Scott on November 29, 2006, 7:47 am
This is going to sound frivolous but they aren't charging enough.

On 29 Nov 2006 00:26:23 -0800, davidchan157@yahoo.com wrote:

>Got a quote from a contractor to replace my central air and heating.
>Wondering what you guys think. I am in the Southern California/Los
>Angeles Area, single story, 2000 sf home. They are proposing to use
>Amana 14 SEER Prestige RCE60C2C and AMS81155CNA 80% Gas Furnace. Are
>these good units?
>
>The quote was $9500. Work includes:
>
>- removal of existing furnace in closet and package unit on roof
>- remove and replace all existing ductwork (half of attic is very
>shallow with limited access, about 2-3 feet tall, the other half is
>about 6 feet)
>- install new furnace in attic
>
>Is this a reasonable price?
>
>I know nothing about HVAC, but reading through the specs for the
>RCE60C2C, there seems to be no performance rating (SEER) for the
>combination of the RCE60C2C and the AMS81155CNA. Will this still
>provide 14 SEER?


--
Make like a drum and beat it!





Posted by Noon-Air on November 29, 2006, 8:11 am
What corners are they cutting to be able to do it so cheap??
For that price, there is no way they are using tin ductwork, and why on
earth are they putting the furnace in the attic instead of the closet where
it was??
I would look for some more bids from companies that are going to do it
right, not just cheap.

> Got a quote from a contractor to replace my central air and heating.
> Wondering what you guys think. I am in the Southern California/Los
> Angeles Area, single story, 2000 sf home. They are proposing to use
> Amana 14 SEER Prestige RCE60C2C and AMS81155CNA 80% Gas Furnace. Are
> these good units?
>
> The quote was $9500. Work includes:
>
> - removal of existing furnace in closet and package unit on roof
> - remove and replace all existing ductwork (half of attic is very
> shallow with limited access, about 2-3 feet tall, the other half is
> about 6 feet)
> - install new furnace in attic
>
> Is this a reasonable price?
>
> I know nothing about HVAC, but reading through the specs for the
> RCE60C2C, there seems to be no performance rating (SEER) for the
> combination of the RCE60C2C and the AMS81155CNA. Will this still
> provide 14 SEER?
>



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