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Replacing oil fired burner with on-demand LP water heater in forced air system socoast 10-20-2007
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Posted by on October 28, 2007, 12:29 am

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks for your advice, Bob.
> > > We have our own well, with an ozone filter, but no other type.
> >
> > > We are in a very rural area, about 2 hours from a town big enough to
> > > have Home Depot/WalMart, and it's hard to find any qualified HVAC
> > > people who are willing to come out to the boondocks.
> >
> > > Our electric rate is about .14/kw (I think), and propane is about the
> > > same as the high grade oil our burner uses.
> >
> > > As for those of you suggesting moving from CA, well, as a retired high
> > > school teacher, living on a small pension, I wish it was so easy to
> > > sell a house and move somewhere else, but houses are not selling very
> > > well right now. And where else would we go? Everywhere you need either
> > > heat or AC, so we are lucky that we don't need AC, and only need heat
> > > to go from 40 up to 65, not 20 or 0, like most northern places.
> >
> > Which is *why* I posted that you get a H/P!!!!!!!!
> >
> > $3.40 fuel oil is costing you $3.06 per 100 K into your home at 80%
> > efficiency.
> > $3.40 fuel oil is costing you $2.72 per 100 K into your home at 90%
> > efficiency.
> >
> > LP at $3.00 will cost you $4.09 per 100 K at 80% efficiency.
> > LP at $3.00 will cost you $3.63 per 100 K at 90% efficiency.
> >
> > Electric Heat at 14 cents per kwh will cost you $4.09 per 100 K into
your
> > home.
> >
> > Now, run a heat pump in 65 degree weather with a
> > COP of 3.5 and the cost is $1.17 per 100 K into your home.
> > (62% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
> >
> > Or run a heat pump in 45 degree weather with a
> > COP of 3.2 and the cost is $1.28 per 100 K into your home.
> > (59% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
> >
> > Or run a heat pump in 37 degree weather with a
> > COP of 3.0 and the cost is $1.36 per 100 K into your home.
> > (56% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
> >
> > Now tell me, who wouldn't like to cut their heating cost in half?
> > Are you on the phone to get a proposal for a new H/P yet?
> > The real question is, if your not, why aren't you?
>
>
> I just checked with my HVAC installer/repair guy.
> He agrees that a H/P would be good, if it can be installed inside a
> shed, not out in the salt air, where it would rot in no time.
> He also says that the on-demand system would save us money on our
> current overall bill, even though oil provides more BTUs/gal than LP
> does.
>
> Thanks for your valuable response.
>
> regards,
>
> socoast


Tell your install/repair guy that he's FULL OF SHIT, then go find a
*competent* one!



Posted by Bob Pietrangelo on November 2, 2007, 3:24 pm
Bullshit to the too much Salt Issue. IF he is that worried about it, he can
have the Unit dipped. I strongly reccomend a Trane unit if it is seaside

--
Bob Pietrangelo
bobp3@comcast.net (home)
bob@comfort-solution.biz (work)
www.comfort-solution.biz





>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thanks for your advice, Bob.
>> > We have our own well, with an ozone filter, but no other type.
>>
>> > We are in a very rural area, about 2 hours from a town big enough to
>> > have Home Depot/WalMart, and it's hard to find any qualified HVAC
>> > people who are willing to come out to the boondocks.
>>
>> > Our electric rate is about .14/kw (I think), and propane is about the
>> > same as the high grade oil our burner uses.
>>
>> > As for those of you suggesting moving from CA, well, as a retired high
>> > school teacher, living on a small pension, I wish it was so easy to
>> > sell a house and move somewhere else, but houses are not selling very
>> > well right now. And where else would we go? Everywhere you need either
>> > heat or AC, so we are lucky that we don't need AC, and only need heat
>> > to go from 40 up to 65, not 20 or 0, like most northern places.
>>
>> Which is *why* I posted that you get a H/P!!!!!!!!
>>
>> $3.40 fuel oil is costing you $3.06 per 100 K into your home at 80%
>> efficiency.
>> $3.40 fuel oil is costing you $2.72 per 100 K into your home at 90%
>> efficiency.
>>
>> LP at $3.00 will cost you $4.09 per 100 K at 80% efficiency.
>> LP at $3.00 will cost you $3.63 per 100 K at 90% efficiency.
>>
>> Electric Heat at 14 cents per kwh will cost you $4.09 per 100 K into your
>> home.
>>
>> Now, run a heat pump in 65 degree weather with a
>> COP of 3.5 and the cost is $1.17 per 100 K into your home.
>> (62% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
>>
>> Or run a heat pump in 45 degree weather with a
>> COP of 3.2 and the cost is $1.28 per 100 K into your home.
>> (59% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
>>
>> Or run a heat pump in 37 degree weather with a
>> COP of 3.0 and the cost is $1.36 per 100 K into your home.
>> (56% savings over your current 80% fuel oil)
>>
>> Now tell me, who wouldn't like to cut their heating cost in half?
>> Are you on the phone to get a proposal for a new H/P yet?
>> The real question is, if your not, why aren't you?
>
>
> I just checked with my HVAC installer/repair guy.
> He agrees that a H/P would be good, if it can be installed inside a
> shed, not out in the salt air, where it would rot in no time.
> He also says that the on-demand system would save us money on our
> current overall bill, even though oil provides more BTUs/gal than LP
> does.
>
> Thanks for your valuable response.
>
> regards,
>
> socoast
>



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