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Revised diagnosis, a/c freezing up Fins 06-04-2007
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Posted by on June 6, 2007, 1:21 pm


> Thanks Mike. It has been running OK for a few days now. I am going to
> get a contactor and have it ready.


Just remember, the money spent on parts (that my have not been needed) could
have helped pay for a competent tech to correctly diagnose and repair the
system.



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on June 6, 2007, 2:02 pm

>
>
>> Thanks Mike. It has been running OK for a few days now. I am going to
>> get a contactor and have it ready.
>
>
> Just remember, the money spent on parts (that my have not been needed)
> could
> have helped pay for a competent tech to correctly diagnose and repair the
> system.

But... but.... if he paid a tech, the tech would "go away" after the repair.
He wants this to be a zero-sum game, with something to fondle after it's all
over.

LLoyd


Posted by Fins on June 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
>
>
> > Thanks Mike. It has been running OK for a few days now. I am going to
> > get a contactor and have it ready.
>
> Just remember, the money spent on parts (that my have not been needed) could
> have helped pay for a competent tech to correctly diagnose and repair the
> system.


I first called a repair man, who said he has been doing AC work for
30+ years. He checked pressures, filters, duct sizes, evap coil.

He said the low side pressure was a little high? and the coil was a
little dirty from what he could see thru the removable panel.

He also said the return ducting was on the small size.

He cleaned the coil in place. Had to cut into some ducting to get to
it, and said it cleaned up good. He said the pressures were better
after the cleaning.

The next day it had the same problem. No airflow, and compressor
running. My tenant says when it happens, the insulated line at the
compressor freezes up. I havent been able to be there when it
happens.

The Tech said putting in another return might fix it.
Because it has been working for 9 years, I'm hesitant to have a new
return put in. Am I wrong here.

I ran ok for 1 1/2 days and this morning it frooze again. Of course he
wasn't able to contact me, so I could check if the coil was frooze. He
shut it off after he couldn't contact me, and when I got there 3 hours
l;ater, it was unfrozen, and the coil had a few drops of water on it.
The pan wasn't very wet, but it's Florida and hot, so maybe it dried
out.
We turned it back on and am waiting for it to stop cooling again.

Some call me cheap for wanting to fix it myself. I just paid the Tech.
$175 for 1 1/4hrs work, which is fine if it fixed it. But it didn't.
I'm retired with a low income, and have more time than money to try to
get it repaired.
Just hope you all understand.

Thanks



Posted by on June 6, 2007, 9:55 pm

>>
>>
>> > Thanks Mike. It has been running OK for a few days now. I am going to
>> > get a contactor and have it ready.
>>
>> Just remember, the money spent on parts (that my have not been needed) could
>> have helped pay for a competent tech to correctly diagnose and repair the
>> system.
>
>
>I first called a repair man, who said he has been doing AC work for
>30+ years. He checked pressures, filters, duct sizes, evap coil.
>
>He said the low side pressure was a little high? and the coil was a
>little dirty from what he could see thru the removable panel.
>
>He also said the return ducting was on the small size.
>
>He cleaned the coil in place. Had to cut into some ducting to get to
>it, and said it cleaned up good. He said the pressures were better
>after the cleaning.
>
>The next day it had the same problem. No airflow, and compressor
>running. My tenant says when it happens, the insulated line at the
>compressor freezes up. I havent been able to be there when it
>happens.
>
>The Tech said putting in another return might fix it.
>Because it has been working for 9 years, I'm hesitant to have a new
>return put in. Am I wrong here.
>
>I ran ok for 1 1/2 days and this morning it frooze again. Of course he
>wasn't able to contact me, so I could check if the coil was frooze. He
>shut it off after he couldn't contact me, and when I got there 3 hours
>l;ater, it was unfrozen, and the coil had a few drops of water on it.
>The pan wasn't very wet, but it's Florida and hot, so maybe it dried
>out.
>We turned it back on and am waiting for it to stop cooling again.
>
>Some call me cheap for wanting to fix it myself. I just paid the Tech.
>$175 for 1 1/4hrs work, which is fine if it fixed it. But it didn't.
>I'm retired with a low income, and have more time than money to try to
>get it repaired.
>Just hope you all understand.
>
>Thanks
>

has anybody inspected the ductwork? just because its worked for nine
years does not mean there could be a duct / air flow issue thats just
not being addressed. did anybody wire brush the blower wheel? maybe
the blower wheel is so loaded with crud it cannot move enough air
regardless of how clean the coil may be. maybe the return air duct is
choked off. maybe the tenant has closed off a bunch of grills.

If you had a brain you would call up the $175 guy and tell him you
have the same problem as before his repairs and does he warranty his
work? If he wants to add more return air, let him, pay him, and get
from him a performance warranty. no warranty, no payment. if he
fails tro follow thru on any warranty work, nail his ass to the wall &
contact the BBB as well as any State Licensing Boards etc.

Posted by lp13-30 on June 6, 2007, 10:22 pm
If you have a 9 y/o Janitrol air handler and it still has the original
POS blower relay, I will give you 10 to 1 odds that is the problem. They
go intermittant, and of course never act up while you are watching them.
I usually just replace it with a regular spdt relay and never havve any
more problems. Larry


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