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Posted by John on July 31, 2006, 9:02 pm
Hi everyone, I've been reading through this group trying to pick up
some advice.
I have a Rheem system that is 16 years old. The a/c gave up on me
about 2 weeks ago. I'm in Southern California, and it's been super hot
and running now for more than 5 weeks.
I have American Home Shield, and I know many of you are down on them,
but it seems to have worked for me. The service provider came out a
week ago, and changed a capacitor, fuses, and got it running, for
about an hour. It then just started blowing warm air. He came back,
and said the compressor was out, and AHS agreed to replace it.
He told me, however, that that was just putting a bandaid on the
problem, and it still, probably, wouldn't last me through the rest of
the season, which out here is into November. He quoted me $5600 for a
new 13 SEER system, furnace and 5 Ton a/c system. He said it was a
Bryant or Goodman system. Trane, through Home Depot, quoted a 14 SEER
system at $11,490.00. A big difference. My home is about 2700 sq ft.
Sears is quoting over a month before they can even come out and give
an estimate.
I guess I thought the compressor pretty much WAS the system. If that's
replaced, shouldn't that part of the system be like new? The furnace
and blower seem to be working fine. Being in So Cal, I don't use the
furnace much, but do rely on the a/c.
Is 16 years pushing the time limit anyway, and I'll need to replace
everything shortly anyway? Is the first guy just trying to get me to
buy that system from him, and, last, any thoughts on why the big price
difference between the Bryant and the Trane?
Thanks for any advice you might have!
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Posted by PJ ;-) on July 31, 2006, 9:28 pm
John wrote:
> He told me, however, that that was just putting a bandaid on the
> problem, and it still, probably, wouldn't last me through the rest of
> the season, which out here is into November. He quoted me $5600 for a
> new 13 SEER system, furnace and 5 Ton a/c system. He said it was a
> Bryant or Goodman system. Trane, through Home Depot, quoted a 14 SEER
> system at $11,490.00. A big difference. My home is about 2700 sq ft.
> Sears is quoting over a month before they can even come out and give
> an estimate.
5 Ton appears slightly low on capacity for the size of the house unless
correctly zoned. A heat load should be performed to correctly identify
the required unit size.
> I guess I thought the compressor pretty much WAS the system. If that's
> replaced, shouldn't that part of the system be like new? The furnace
> and blower seem to be working fine. Being in So Cal, I don't use the
> furnace much, but do rely on the a/c.
The compressor is the heart. However, there are other important items
that support the compressor and determine the expected unit life. They
would include metering device condition, coil condition (both),
corrosion, etc.
> Is 16 years pushing the time limit anyway, and I'll need to replace
> everything shortly anyway?
I had a Hitachi that gave 30 years. If the majority of the plant is in
good nik, and has performed well, get quotes to replace the compressor
and service the unit (including coil cleans) and you should get many
years reliable service (if the tech does a good job).
> Is the first guy just trying to get me to buy that system from him
YES. Get other opinions and prices.
> , and, last, any thoughts on why the big price difference between the Bryant
and the Trane?
He (the tech) gets a better deal from Bryant and could have lower
overheads than the other contractor. Decide on a unit make and
capacity and ask several contractors for a price on that brand (apples
and apples).
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Posted by Bubba on July 31, 2006, 9:44 pm
>Hi everyone, I've been reading through this group trying to pick up
>some advice.
>
>I have a Rheem system that is 16 years old. The a/c gave up on me
>about 2 weeks ago. I'm in Southern California, and it's been super hot
>and running now for more than 5 weeks.
>
>I have American Home Shield, and I know many of you are down on them,
>but it seems to have worked for me. The service provider came out a
>week ago, and changed a capacitor, fuses, and got it running, for
>about an hour. It then just started blowing warm air. He came back,
>and said the compressor was out, and AHS agreed to replace it.
>
>He told me, however, that that was just putting a bandaid on the
>problem, and it still, probably, wouldn't last me through the rest of
>the season, which out here is into November. He quoted me $5600 for a
>new 13 SEER system, furnace and 5 Ton a/c system. He said it was a
>Bryant or Goodman system. Trane, through Home Depot, quoted a 14 SEER
>system at $11,490.00. A big difference. My home is about 2700 sq ft.
>Sears is quoting over a month before they can even come out and give
>an estimate.
>
>I guess I thought the compressor pretty much WAS the system. If that's
>replaced, shouldn't that part of the system be like new? The furnace
>and blower seem to be working fine. Being in So Cal, I don't use the
>furnace much, but do rely on the a/c.
>
>Is 16 years pushing the time limit anyway, and I'll need to replace
>everything shortly anyway? Is the first guy just trying to get me to
>buy that system from him, and, last, any thoughts on why the big price
>difference between the Bryant and the Trane?
>
>Thanks for any advice you might have!
If you have a Home Warranty and they are paying for the repairs, why
would you buy a new system? Yes 16 yrs is on the old side but let them
keep replacing chit. Maybe you will get lucky and it will all take a
crap and THEY will be paying for your new system and NOT you. Live
with it till the Home Warranty is up, then replace it all on your
dime. Its kinda like gambling.
Bubba
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Posted by daytona on August 1, 2006, 4:07 am
Bubba
AHS has a buyout plan....after a certin amount of money they put in. They
then decide to buy out that portion of the warranty contract. And you now it
is to their favor not the homemoaners.
>
>>Hi everyone, I've been reading through this group trying to pick up
>>some advice.
>>
>>I have a Rheem system that is 16 years old. The a/c gave up on me
>>about 2 weeks ago. I'm in Southern California, and it's been super hot
>>and running now for more than 5 weeks.
>>
>>I have American Home Shield, and I know many of you are down on them,
>>but it seems to have worked for me. The service provider came out a
>>week ago, and changed a capacitor, fuses, and got it running, for
>>about an hour. It then just started blowing warm air. He came back,
>>and said the compressor was out, and AHS agreed to replace it.
>>
>>He told me, however, that that was just putting a bandaid on the
>>problem, and it still, probably, wouldn't last me through the rest of
>>the season, which out here is into November. He quoted me $5600 for a
>>new 13 SEER system, furnace and 5 Ton a/c system. He said it was a
>>Bryant or Goodman system. Trane, through Home Depot, quoted a 14 SEER
>>system at $11,490.00. A big difference. My home is about 2700 sq ft.
>>Sears is quoting over a month before they can even come out and give
>>an estimate.
>>
>>I guess I thought the compressor pretty much WAS the system. If that's
>>replaced, shouldn't that part of the system be like new? The furnace
>>and blower seem to be working fine. Being in So Cal, I don't use the
>>furnace much, but do rely on the a/c.
>>
>>Is 16 years pushing the time limit anyway, and I'll need to replace
>>everything shortly anyway? Is the first guy just trying to get me to
>>buy that system from him, and, last, any thoughts on why the big price
>>difference between the Bryant and the Trane?
>>
>>Thanks for any advice you might have!
>
> If you have a Home Warranty and they are paying for the repairs, why
> would you buy a new system? Yes 16 yrs is on the old side but let them
> keep replacing chit. Maybe you will get lucky and it will all take a
> crap and THEY will be paying for your new system and NOT you. Live
> with it till the Home Warranty is up, then replace it all on your
> dime. Its kinda like gambling.
> Bubba
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Posted by Bubba on August 1, 2006, 5:04 pm
Yep, and thats kinda what I mean. Keep using their repair money they
give you and THEN get the new unit when you run out of all their
money. If you're lucky, yours will have died completly and they will
give you a whole new unit. IF, I say, IF!
Bubba
>Bubba
>AHS has a buyout plan....after a certin amount of money they put in. They
>then decide to buy out that portion of the warranty contract. And you now it
>is to their favor not the homemoaners.
>
>
>>
>>>Hi everyone, I've been reading through this group trying to pick up
>>>some advice.
>>>
>>>I have a Rheem system that is 16 years old. The a/c gave up on me
>>>about 2 weeks ago. I'm in Southern California, and it's been super hot
>>>and running now for more than 5 weeks.
>>>
>>>I have American Home Shield, and I know many of you are down on them,
>>>but it seems to have worked for me. The service provider came out a
>>>week ago, and changed a capacitor, fuses, and got it running, for
>>>about an hour. It then just started blowing warm air. He came back,
>>>and said the compressor was out, and AHS agreed to replace it.
>>>
>>>He told me, however, that that was just putting a bandaid on the
>>>problem, and it still, probably, wouldn't last me through the rest of
>>>the season, which out here is into November. He quoted me $5600 for a
>>>new 13 SEER system, furnace and 5 Ton a/c system. He said it was a
>>>Bryant or Goodman system. Trane, through Home Depot, quoted a 14 SEER
>>>system at $11,490.00. A big difference. My home is about 2700 sq ft.
>>>Sears is quoting over a month before they can even come out and give
>>>an estimate.
>>>
>>>I guess I thought the compressor pretty much WAS the system. If that's
>>>replaced, shouldn't that part of the system be like new? The furnace
>>>and blower seem to be working fine. Being in So Cal, I don't use the
>>>furnace much, but do rely on the a/c.
>>>
>>>Is 16 years pushing the time limit anyway, and I'll need to replace
>>>everything shortly anyway? Is the first guy just trying to get me to
>>>buy that system from him, and, last, any thoughts on why the big price
>>>difference between the Bryant and the Trane?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any advice you might have!
>>
>> If you have a Home Warranty and they are paying for the repairs, why
>> would you buy a new system? Yes 16 yrs is on the old side but let them
>> keep replacing chit. Maybe you will get lucky and it will all take a
>> crap and THEY will be paying for your new system and NOT you. Live
>> with it till the Home Warranty is up, then replace it all on your
>> dime. Its kinda like gambling.
>> Bubba
>
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