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Seeking Aircon experts for refinement of aircon efficiency improvement solutions tommy_tomsky 07-26-2006
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Posted by tommy_tomsky on July 26, 2006, 5:27 pm
Hello group,

I'm an Electrical Engineer in Germany and my focus is on energy
efficiency solutions, mainly for buildings (lighting, hvac).

I'm seeking motivated air conditioning experts to help me evaluate and
refine an AC energy efficiency concept (by email, skype, phone or in
person, depending on your location).

If your profile looks roughly like this, I'd love to hear from you:

- Knowledge of all common types/sizes of aircon systems, especially DX
systems

- "Hands-on" experience in the air conditioning industry (designing,
installing and servicing AC equipment)

- Interested in promoting energy efficiency improvements.

Looking forward to your feedback!

Best regards,
Thomas

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Posted by New Directions In Building Ser on July 26, 2006, 5:51 pm
From what I see published, Germany on domestic buildings, already surpasses
every other European country (and I'd presume everyone else) on passive
thermal efficiency.
However on commercial buildings, there's a lot more out there and while the
basic premis for energy efficiency should not be discounted, the drivers
will always be what is it that the stakeholders want to see delivered.
CIBSE (Chartered Institute of Building Services Engineers) seem to have some
prominence in dealing with these issues and you could do worse than look
them up. As an electrical engineer involved in building services, a
relationship with the Elec Engineers at CIBSE might also be of benefit to
you.

> Hello group,
>
> I'm an Electrical Engineer in Germany and my focus is on energy efficiency
> solutions, mainly for buildings (lighting, hvac).
>
> I'm seeking motivated air conditioning experts to help me evaluate and
> refine an AC energy efficiency concept (by email, skype, phone or in
> person, depending on your location).
>
> If your profile looks roughly like this, I'd love to hear from you:
>
> - Knowledge of all common types/sizes of aircon systems, especially DX
> systems
>
> - "Hands-on" experience in the air conditioning industry (designing,
> installing and servicing AC equipment)
>
> - Interested in promoting energy efficiency improvements.
>
> Looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Thomas,
From what I see published, Germany on domestic buildings, already surpasses
every other European country (and I'd presume everyone else) on passive
thermal efficiency.
However on commercial buildings, there's a lot more out there and while the
basic premis for energy efficiency should not be discounted, the drivers
will always be what is it that the stakeholders want to see delivered.
CIBSE (Chartered Institute of Building Services Engineers) seem to have some
prominence in dealing with these issues and you could do worse than look
them up. As an electrical engineer involved in building services, a
relationship with the Elec Engineers at CIBSE might also be of benefit to
you.



Posted by digitalmaster on July 28, 2006, 4:55 pm

> From what I see published, Germany on domestic buildings, already
> surpasses every other European country (and I'd presume everyone else) on
> passive thermal efficiency.
> However on commercial buildings, there's a lot more out there and while
> the basic premis for energy efficiency should not be discounted, the
> drivers will always be what is it that the stakeholders want to see
> delivered.
> CIBSE (Chartered Institute of Building Services Engineers) seem to have
> some prominence in dealing with these issues and you could do worse than
> look them up. As an electrical engineer involved in building services, a
> relationship with the Elec Engineers at CIBSE might also be of benefit to
> you.
>
>> Hello group,
>>
>> I'm an Electrical Engineer in Germany and my focus is on energy
>> efficiency solutions, mainly for buildings (lighting, hvac).
>>
>> I'm seeking motivated air conditioning experts to help me evaluate and
>> refine an AC energy efficiency concept (by email, skype, phone or in
>> person, depending on your location).
>>
>> If your profile looks roughly like this, I'd love to hear from you:
>>
>> - Knowledge of all common types/sizes of aircon systems, especially DX
>> systems
>>
>> - "Hands-on" experience in the air conditioning industry (designing,
>> installing and servicing AC equipment)
>>
>> - Interested in promoting energy efficiency improvements.
>>
>> Looking forward to your feedback!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
> Thomas,
> From what I see published, Germany on domestic buildings, already
> surpasses every other European country (and I'd presume everyone else) on
> passive thermal efficiency.
> However on commercial buildings, there's a lot more out there and while
> the basic premis for energy efficiency should not be discounted, the
> drivers will always be what is it that the stakeholders want to see
> delivered.
> CIBSE (Chartered Institute of Building Services Engineers) seem to have
> some prominence in dealing with these issues and you could do worse than
> look them up. As an electrical engineer involved in building services, a
> relationship with the Elec Engineers at CIBSE might also be of benefit to
> you.
>
I always wondered if building a swamp cooler around the condenser and
running the condensate to the swamp cooler would increase efficiency?



Posted by Jon Elson on July 28, 2006, 5:48 pm


digitalmaster wrote:

>I always wondered if building a swamp cooler around the condenser and
>running the condensate to the swamp cooler would increase efficiency?
>
>
>
>
Umm, this is essentially what a cooling tower does. The water is
evaporatively
cooled, and is used to cool a refrigerant-to-water condenser. That is
very standard
industrial air conditioning practice, at least in the US.

Jon


Posted by digitalmaster on July 30, 2006, 6:16 pm

>
>
> digitalmaster wrote:
>
>>I always wondered if building a swamp cooler around the condenser and
>>running the condensate to the swamp cooler would increase efficiency?
>>
>>
> Umm, this is essentially what a cooling tower does. The water is
> evaporatively
> cooled, and is used to cool a refrigerant-to-water condenser. That is
> very standard
> industrial air conditioning practice, at least in the US.
>
> Jon
>
I was thinking the condenser fan could pull air through the swamp
cooler,cooling it before it got to the condenser coils.Then the precooled
air would flow across the condenser as normal.I wonder if the temp
difference of the air would make up for the extra draw on the fan?



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