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Seen at a supply house HeatMan 07-16-2006
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Posted by HeatMan on July 16, 2006, 8:54 am
Okay, I was paying my bill at one of my local supply houses when 2 people
come driving up. They were in one of those non-descript Nissans that no
longer had much of a front end (following too close?). There were towing a
4X4 trailer that had a furnace on it and were picking up a evap coil, a gas
connector, and a half sheet of duct board. They parked parallel to the
building 'because of the trailer,' but right behind some of the other
vehicles, blocking the other cars and trucks in. As I went out, the helper
was pouring another quart of oil in because the gaskets were bad and the oil
was burning off on the exhaust manifold. The dashboard was littered with
filter-dryers and assorted papers as well as yesterday's lunch. As I drove
off, I saw the helper pushing the car, probably to get it started.

I really wanted to get a digital picture of it, but couldn't.

How'd you like these peoples working at your house, doing a changeout?



Posted by Moe Jones on July 16, 2006, 12:01 pm
This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not having a
license and insurance only to find out later they were connected to a
apartment.

In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The only
way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off the
apartment property.

Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned that
Texas does not have a
statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work and 20
years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had been a fire
and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled the insurance
company does not have to pay.



This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the work
or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the city hall
to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector will come by and
check the work to be safe.



Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves because most
of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix their work. :-)



And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas that
wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing condensing
unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a permit.




--
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas

> Okay, I was paying my bill at one of my local supply houses when 2 people
> come driving up. They were in one of those non-descript Nissans that no
> longer had much of a front end (following too close?). There were towing
> a
> 4X4 trailer that had a furnace on it and were picking up a evap coil, a
> gas
> connector, and a half sheet of duct board. They parked parallel to the
> building 'because of the trailer,' but right behind some of the other
> vehicles, blocking the other cars and trucks in. As I went out, the
> helper
> was pouring another quart of oil in because the gaskets were bad and the
> oil
> was burning off on the exhaust manifold. The dashboard was littered with
> filter-dryers and assorted papers as well as yesterday's lunch. As I
> drove
> off, I saw the helper pushing the car, probably to get it started.
>
> I really wanted to get a digital picture of it, but couldn't.
>
> How'd you like these peoples working at your house, doing a changeout?
>
>



Posted by John on July 17, 2006, 12:11 am

> This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
> pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
> department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not having a
> license and insurance only to find out later they were connected to a
> apartment.
>
> In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The only
> way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off the
> apartment property.
>
> Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned that
> Texas does not have a
> statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work and
> 20 years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had been a
> fire and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled the
> insurance company does not have to pay.
>
>
>
> This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the work
> or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the city hall
> to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector will come by and
> check the work to be safe.
>
>
>
> Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves because
> most of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix their work.
> :-)
>
>
>
> And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas
> that wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing
> condensing unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a permit.
>

Just helped a friend install a condensing furnace - pretty straightforward
job if you can read instructions. Total cost about $1200, not bad
considering he saved 3-4k over the contractor's price. Oh yeah, the
inspector said it was as good or better install than most pro's perform.



Posted by aka-SBM on July 17, 2006, 12:22 am

>
>> This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
>> pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
>> department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not having a
>> license and insurance only to find out later they were connected to a
>> apartment.
>>
>> In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The
>> only way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off the
>> apartment property.
>>
>> Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned that
>> Texas does not have a
>> statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work and
>> 20 years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had been a
>> fire and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled the
>> insurance company does not have to pay.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the
>> work or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the
>> city hall to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector will
>> come by and check the work to be safe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves because
>> most of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix their
>> work. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas
>> that wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing
>> condensing unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a permit.
>>
>
> Just helped a friend install a condensing furnace - pretty straightforward
> job if you can read instructions. Total cost about $1200, not bad
> considering he saved 3-4k over the contractor's price. Oh yeah, the
> inspector said it was as good or better install than most pro's perform.

Not bad, since anyone can by a Goodman for less than that....

Oh..thats right..you live in a state where ANYONE can install...not here.

>



Posted by John on July 17, 2006, 6:12 pm

>
>>
>>> This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
>>> pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
>>> department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not having
>>> a license and insurance only to find out later they were connected to a
>>> apartment.
>>>
>>> In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The
>>> only way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off the
>>> apartment property.
>>>
>>> Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned that
>>> Texas does not have a
>>> statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work and
>>> 20 years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had been
>>> a fire and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled the
>>> insurance company does not have to pay.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the
>>> work or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the
>>> city hall to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector will
>>> come by and check the work to be safe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves because
>>> most of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix their
>>> work. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas
>>> that wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing
>>> condensing unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a permit.
>>>
>>
>> Just helped a friend install a condensing furnace - pretty
>> straightforward job if you can read instructions. Total cost about $1200,
>> not bad considering he saved 3-4k over the contractor's price. Oh yeah,
>> the inspector said it was as good or better install than most pro's
>> perform.
>
> Not bad, since anyone can by a Goodman for less than that....
>

Not a Goodman and that includes 80' of 3" PVC, filter kit and bayvent



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