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Seen at a supply house HeatMan 07-16-2006
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Posted by aka-SBM on July 18, 2006, 9:51 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>> This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
>>>> pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
>>>> department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not having
>>>> a license and insurance only to find out later they were connected to a
>>>> apartment.
>>>>
>>>> In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The
>>>> only way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off
>>>> the apartment property.
>>>>
>>>> Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned that
>>>> Texas does not have a
>>>> statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work
>>>> and 20 years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had
>>>> been a fire and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled
>>>> the insurance company does not have to pay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the
>>>> work or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the
>>>> city hall to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector will
>>>> come by and check the work to be safe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves because
>>>> most of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix their
>>>> work. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas
>>>> that wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing
>>>> condensing unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a permit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just helped a friend install a condensing furnace - pretty
>>> straightforward job if you can read instructions. Total cost about
>>> $1200, not bad considering he saved 3-4k over the contractor's price. Oh
>>> yeah, the inspector said it was as good or better install than most
>>> pro's perform.
>>
>> Not bad, since anyone can by a Goodman for less than that....
>>
>
> Not a Goodman and that includes 80' of 3" PVC, filter kit and bayvent
>

You still havent impressed anyone.
No information, no model numbers, no size info, no make...
Hell, you might have bought a Trane unit for that...a 40,000BTU bottom of
the line unit that makes a Goodman unit look good.
EVERY brand has crap. The difference is when you go back to service it over
the course of years, and the one that cost an additional 2000 is still
looking like new, while the 1200 dollar unit is about shot, and the
warrantys void and null.




Posted by geoman on July 19, 2006, 10:26 am

>>
>> Not a Goodman and that includes 80' of 3" PVC, filter kit and bayvent
>>
>
> You still havent impressed anyone.
> No information, no model numbers, no size info, no make...
> Hell, you might have bought a Trane unit for that...a 40,000BTU bottom of
> the line unit that makes a Goodman unit look good.
> EVERY brand has crap. The difference is when you go back to service it
> over the course of years, and the one that cost an additional 2000 is
> still looking like new, while the 1200 dollar unit is about shot, and the
> warrantys void and null.

"bayvent', sounds like he did install a Trane.... did you?




Posted by John on July 20, 2006, 1:49 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This may not make you happy, but I have run into the same but I took
>>>>> pictures with my digital camera and sent them to the state inspection
>>>>> department to have them quite in dealing with the public and not
>>>>> having a license and insurance only to find out later they were
>>>>> connected to a apartment.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Texas if they are with a apartment maintenance they are legal. The
>>>>> only way they can get into trouble if they are caught doing work off
>>>>> the apartment property.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not too long ago I went to a review of the state codes and learned
>>>>> that Texas does not have a
>>>>> statue of limitations on side work. So if someone did some side work
>>>>> and 20 years down the road something goes wrong and lets say there had
>>>>> been a fire and the city also finds that a permit had not been pulled
>>>>> the insurance company does not have to pay.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I inform my friends to get a license contractor to do the
>>>>> work or even those who want to try to save money is to go down to the
>>>>> city hall to get a home owners permit. At least the city inspector
>>>>> will come by and check the work to be safe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: I do not mind in home owners trying to do work themselves
>>>>> because most of the time they have to pay extra to a contractor to fix
>>>>> their work. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And times are changing. You are now seeing quite a few cities in Texas
>>>>> that wants a copy of a heat load before you can replace a existing
>>>>> condensing unit or furnace and installing a new system to get a
>>>>> permit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just helped a friend install a condensing furnace - pretty
>>>> straightforward job if you can read instructions. Total cost about
>>>> $1200, not bad considering he saved 3-4k over the contractor's price.
>>>> Oh yeah, the inspector said it was as good or better install than most
>>>> pro's perform.
>>>
>>> Not bad, since anyone can by a Goodman for less than that....
>>>
>>
>> Not a Goodman and that includes 80' of 3" PVC, filter kit and bayvent
>>
>
> You still havent impressed anyone.
> No information, no model numbers, no size info, no make...
> Hell, you might have bought a Trane unit for that...a 40,000BTU bottom of
> the line unit that makes a Goodman unit look good.
> EVERY brand has crap. The difference is when you go back to service it
> over the course of years, and the one that cost an additional 2000 is
> still looking like new, while the 1200 dollar unit is about shot, and the
> warrantys void and null.
>
>
Armstrong tech 91 upflow 75k BTU and I can buy 3 more new furnaces before
approaching the cost of the contractor's install price. Most likely problem
will be flame sensor contamination - a little steel wool and another $100
service call saved.



Posted by Moe Jones on July 20, 2006, 6:21 pm
More power to you if you can buy wholesale.

My question is: Did you pull a permit and had the job inspected by a city or
state inspector to make sure it was installed right and is safe?

And if it passed that good.

I will say most side work completed by home owners are minor items and the
big jobs tried by home owners do not last long for they do not have the
tools or knowage that a retail contactor has.
--
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas

> Armstrong tech 91 upflow 75k BTU and I can buy 3 more new furnaces before
> approaching the cost of the contractor's install price. Most likely
> problem will be flame sensor contamination - a little steel wool and
> another $100 service call saved.



Posted by PrecisionMachinisT on July 22, 2006, 1:10 am


> home owners do not last long for they do not have the
> tools or knowage that a retail contactor has.

Usually, I just scavenge contactors from scrapped machinery, etc.....else
simply buy em offa ebay....seldom paying the full retail.

Curious, what exactly is the meaning of 'knowage' ?

--

SVL





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