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Posted by Joseph on September 21, 2007, 6:46 pm
> Flame a way fellas , but ive installed hundreds in the last two years and
> have
> had but a small handful of warranty issues , i wouldnt hesitate to install
> or
> back goodman equipment .
> reasonably priced , readily available and generic controls ,a good
> warranty
> program ,no need to wait a week or better for proprietary and often very
> expensive parts as with , lennox, trane,Bryant etc ;-)
>
> you wont hear me putting down their brands as pos's
>
>
> me thinks the big boys are getting nervous ,
I have to disagree, Goodman equipment earned the reputation of being a
POS. I am a one man, service only shop; I sub out installs or simply give
the referral out depending on what they may be looking for. Trane by far
out performs Goodman in the field ten fold. It may be that Amana will be a
turn around for them but I have yet to see it.
Warranties are improving across the board but I'd rather have a unit
that doesn't need the repair work. I know contractors who would practically
rebuild a Goodman before installing it, they knew which parts were most
likely to fail. I wouldn't rule out a Goodman if the Customer wanted one
though.
Joseph
>
> models
> of Goodman equipment will perform as well if not > better than the higher
> priced brands & it comes with as good a warrantye> as there is in the
> industry.w.uI can get you a 10 year parts a labor warranty on any
> brand.tSo
> the manufacture's warranty is really nothing to base your decision on.T:-)
>
>
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Posted by The Freon Cowboy on September 21, 2007, 6:53 pm
and here come the flames , i stand by my statement
they arent junkitrol anymore , but im not gonna waste my breath trying to
convince the masses ,
bottom line , you make more money selling trane ,dontcha ?
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Posted by Joseph on September 21, 2007, 7:23 pm
> and here come the flames , i stand by my statement
> they arent junkitrol anymore , but im not gonna waste my breath trying to
> convince the masses ,
>
> bottom line , you make more money selling trane ,dontcha ?
>
>
I was not flaming anything...
I do not sell equipment anymore, as I posted,
--
"I am a one man, service only shop; I sub out installs or simply give
the referral out depending on what they may be looking for."
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I am saying that from my experience Goodman has not measured up. They
would not get my endorsement. I can buy any brand. I would say that
AS/Trane, Rheem/Rhuud, and Bryant/Carrier are the best performing equipment
available. This is my opinion and if Goodman does turn it around they'll
get a reputation for it, but just saying it doesn't make it so...
Joseph
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Posted by The Freon Cowboy on September 21, 2007, 7:48 pm
lets go back about five years ?
goodman was a janitrol spinoff line , right ?
lot;s of problem, poor designs , ill never forget the old gmp-series
multi positon piece of shit , no doubt , i doubt theres one of em left in
service
but then they seemed to get a clue , started getting away from the whiz bang ,
tahnk you maa'm method of construction , like i said earlier
they are getting better , better steel, tighter lines , better controls
i can't say that ive had one leaky evap yet , but , i'll grant you that i may
have one i need to look at next week , jury is still out ------
ive made a good and honest living installing this stuff , and ive got hundreds
of happy customers ,
get over it boy's ,goodman is here , cuz its fairly good stuff
its reasonably priced , and its easy and quick to repair
and your customer's arent left feeling like youve fucked em up the ass
whens the last time you paid for a fan control board for a lennox
only to pass on your markup , and wound up charging 4 to 5 hundred dollars for
it ?
when was the last time you took a good look at one ?
or even installed one ? ill bet it's been a while
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Posted by Noon-Air on September 21, 2007, 9:49 pm
> lets go back about five years ?
> goodman was a janitrol spinoff line , right ?
> lot;s of problem, poor designs , ill never forget the old gmp-series
> multi positon piece of shit , no doubt , i doubt theres one of em left in
> service
> but then they seemed to get a clue , started getting away from the whiz
> bang ,
> tahnk you maa'm method of construction , like i said earlier
> they are getting better , better steel, tighter lines , better controls
> i can't say that ive had one leaky evap yet , but , i'll grant you that i
> may
> have one i need to look at next week , jury is still out ------
> ive made a good and honest living installing this stuff , and ive got
> hundreds
> of happy customers ,
>
> get over it boy's ,goodman is here , cuz its fairly good stuff
> its reasonably priced , and its easy and quick to repair
> and your customer's arent left feeling like youve fucked em up the ass
> whens the last time you paid for a fan control board for a lennox
> only to pass on your markup , and wound up charging 4 to 5 hundred dollars
> for
> it ?
>
>
> when was the last time you took a good look at one ?
> or even installed one ? ill bet it's been a while
I still have GMP in service in *MY* home... its noisy as hell. The only
problem I have had with it is that the board failed twice in 11 years. I
*had* a Goodman condenser that after 4 years blew the terminals out of the
side of the compressor.....It was replaced with a Rheem RAMB condenser.
FWIW, I have a couple of customers that still have Goodman equipment, most
are looking at replacement in the near future.
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