Supplier turmoil and shake-up

Posted by Noon-Air on December 21, 2007, 11:42 am

In the last 2 weeks, there have been a whole bunch of *MAJOR* changes
happening with several suppliers....

Noland has had RUUD yanked out from under them.... no great suprise there
considering their lack of business ethics. They now carry Nordyne. Talk
about garbage equipment... sheesh.

3-State Supply(they used to carry Nordyne) is supposed to be picking up
RUUD. Their closest branch is 110 miles away.

HD supply's HVAC division is being bought out by Watsco (Gemaire).
Watsco/Gemaire does not have a store within 70 miles of Hattiesburg....the
HD Supply plumbing div is looking like it will stay in H'brg, but nobody
knows whats gonna happen with the HVAC side of the house. Most of the upper
and middle management for HD Supply HVAC have already been cut loose, and a
bunch of stores closed.

Being as HD supply is the local Rheem distributor, I am in negotiations with
Acme Refrigeration in Slidell, LA (80 miles away) for them to be my Rheem
supplier. I gotta keep all my bases covered so I can continue to provide my
customers with the very best Rheem parts and equipment. An added bonus with
Acme is that they also carry ICP (Comfortmaker) which might be useful for a
low end line of equipment.

Ferguson is opening a branch here also. I am unfamilier with them and what
equipment brands they carry.

About the only 2 suppliers that have *NOT* been effected(that I know of) are
the Luxaire, and Carrier/payne/Bryant distributors.

Anybody else have stuff like this happening??

--

Steve Nunes@ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
Noon-Air@comcast.net
601-794-2992
866-Noon-Air

Life is what happens while you were making other plans

Posted by HVACGod on December 21, 2007, 7:14 pm

> In the last 2 weeks, there have been a whole bunch of *MAJOR* changes
> happening with several suppliers....
> Noland has had RUUD yanked out from under them.... no great suprise there
> considering their lack of business ethics. They now carry Nordyne. Talk
> about garbage equipment... sheesh.
> 3-State Supply(they used to carry Nordyne) is supposed to be picking up
> RUUD. Their closest branch is 110 miles away.
> HD supply's HVAC division is being bought out by Watsco (Gemaire).
> Watsco/Gemaire does not have a store within 70 miles of Hattiesburg....the
> HD Supply plumbing div is looking like it will stay in H'brg, but nobody
> knows whats gonna happen with the HVAC side of the house. Most of the
> upper and middle management for HD Supply HVAC have already been cut
> loose, and a bunch of stores closed.
> Being as HD supply is the local Rheem distributor, I am in negotiations
> with Acme Refrigeration in Slidell, LA (80 miles away) for them to be my
> Rheem supplier. I gotta keep all my bases covered so I can continue to
> provide my customers with the very best Rheem parts and equipment. An
> added bonus with Acme is that they also carry ICP (Comfortmaker) which
> might be useful for a low end line of equipment.
> Ferguson is opening a branch here also. I am unfamilier with them and what
> equipment brands they carry.
> About the only 2 suppliers that have *NOT* been effected(that I know of)
> are the Luxaire, and Carrier/payne/Bryant distributors.
> Anybody else have stuff like this happening??
> --
> Steve Nunes@ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
> Noon-Air@comcast.net
> 601-794-2992
> 866-Noon-Air
> Life is what happens while you were making other plans

Yea Steve it's happening around here [Indiana] also. Our long established
York distrubutor [Duncan Supply] had the line yanked from under them a few
months ago - York opted to associate with a larger distributor resource base
in Indiana Supply, who had previously been exclusive Trane distributors for
as long as I can remember. Trane is at the moment [who knows after the I-R
acquisition is complete] distributed via a company owned branch that was
established when they pulled out of Indiana Supply. Duncan Supply has since
picked up the American Standard brand [which some rumors around here
indicate is going to be either split from Trane or out right discontinued],
the AS brand had previously been represented by Atlas Supply, being the
small kid on the block, I don't think they have much more in the way of
equipment to offer than Century - last I heard may have changed by now
though.

FWIW, Ferguson in the Indiana/Kentucky regions are Rheem distributors.
Pretty decent people to deal with in the limited experience I have had with
them.

Posted by Dr. Hardcrab on December 22, 2007, 2:53 pm

> Ferguson is opening a branch here also. I am unfamilier with them and what
> equipment brands they carry.

They are who we get our Rheem units from........

Posted by Zyp on December 22, 2007, 9:04 pm

Noon-Air wrote:

> In the last 2 weeks, there have been a whole bunch of *MAJOR* changes
> happening with several suppliers....
> Noland has had RUUD yanked out from under them.... no great suprise
> there considering their lack of business ethics. They now carry
> Nordyne. Talk about garbage equipment... sheesh.
> 3-State Supply(they used to carry Nordyne) is supposed to be picking
> up RUUD. Their closest branch is 110 miles away.
> HD supply's HVAC division is being bought out by Watsco (Gemaire).
> Watsco/Gemaire does not have a store within 70 miles of
> Hattiesburg....the HD Supply plumbing div is looking like it will
> stay in H'brg, but nobody knows whats gonna happen with the HVAC side
> of the house. Most of the upper and middle management for HD Supply
> HVAC have already been cut loose, and a bunch of stores closed.
> Being as HD supply is the local Rheem distributor, I am in
> negotiations with Acme Refrigeration in Slidell, LA (80 miles away)
> for them to be my Rheem supplier. I gotta keep all my bases covered
> so I can continue to provide my customers with the very best Rheem
> parts and equipment. An added bonus with Acme is that they also carry
> ICP (Comfortmaker) which might be useful for a low end line of
> equipment.
> Ferguson is opening a branch here also. I am unfamilier with them and
> what equipment brands they carry.
> About the only 2 suppliers that have *NOT* been effected(that I know
> of) are the Luxaire, and Carrier/payne/Bryant distributors.
> Anybody else have stuff like this happening??
> --
> Steve Nunes@ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
> Noon-Air@comcast.net
> 601-794-2992
> 866-Noon-Air
> Life is what happens while you were making other plans

Noonie;

In the South Western U.S. has also had a big shake up. Fergeson around here
is handling Trane in one area, and Day & Night in another [I know but they
brought back the brand through ICP.] Our CARRIER distributor has taken on
York, our York Distributor was Fergeson. CARRIER Mfg. took the branding
away from the original distributor and has opened up their own distribution
network like in the past [before 1985].

--
Zyp

Posted by Joseph on December 22, 2007, 11:07 pm

> Noon-Air wrote:

>> In the last 2 weeks, there have been a whole bunch of *MAJOR* changes
>> happening with several suppliers....
>> Noland has had RUUD yanked out from under them.... no great suprise
>> there considering their lack of business ethics. They now carry
>> Nordyne. Talk about garbage equipment... sheesh.
>> 3-State Supply(they used to carry Nordyne) is supposed to be picking
>> up RUUD. Their closest branch is 110 miles away.
>> HD supply's HVAC division is being bought out by Watsco (Gemaire).
>> Watsco/Gemaire does not have a store within 70 miles of
>> Hattiesburg....the HD Supply plumbing div is looking like it will
>> stay in H'brg, but nobody knows whats gonna happen with the HVAC side
>> of the house. Most of the upper and middle management for HD Supply
>> HVAC have already been cut loose, and a bunch of stores closed.
>> Being as HD supply is the local Rheem distributor, I am in
>> negotiations with Acme Refrigeration in Slidell, LA (80 miles away)
>> for them to be my Rheem supplier. I gotta keep all my bases covered
>> so I can continue to provide my customers with the very best Rheem
>> parts and equipment. An added bonus with Acme is that they also carry
>> ICP (Comfortmaker) which might be useful for a low end line of
>> equipment.
>> Ferguson is opening a branch here also. I am unfamilier with them and
>> what equipment brands they carry.
>> About the only 2 suppliers that have *NOT* been effected(that I know
>> of) are the Luxaire, and Carrier/payne/Bryant distributors.
>> Anybody else have stuff like this happening??
>> --
>> Steve Nunes@ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
>> Noon-Air@comcast.net
>> 601-794-2992
>> 866-Noon-Air
>> Life is what happens while you were making other plans

> Noonie;
> In the South Western U.S. has also had a big shake up. Fergeson around here

> handling Trane in one area, and Day & Night in another [I know but they

brought back

> the brand through ICP.] Our CARRIER distributor has taken on York, our York
> Distributor was Fergeson. CARRIER Mfg. took the branding away from the

original

> distributor and has opened up their own distribution network like in the past
> [before 1985].
> --
> Zyp

It must be a trend. Here in No CA we've had just about all the
Distributers
shuffle around in the last few years. Ferguson just pushed out Western Air for
the
Trane line, that was a big buy out or force out as some have told me. York came
back
to town, after closing up and leaving a while back. The suppliers have been in
a
state of flux for almost all mfgs except for the Carrier guy, Val Air.

Joseph