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Tempstar PGX filter? Richard Thomas 11-12-2006
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Posted by Richard Thomas on November 12, 2006, 1:29 pm
We recently bought an older house. The Tempstar PGX (gas/electric) has
been running fine until this winter came around. The limit switch will
trip every couple of weeks (it was fine last winter). I'm thinking
that it might be time for a filter change but I have no idea where it
might be. Is it internal to the unit itself or is there supposed to be
a return in the house that has one?

Whoever installed it used some old larger registers as returns and the
only kind of filtering there was on that was some thin foamy type
material put down and the register placed on top. Not really much of a
filter at all if it's supposed to be on the return (and it's gone now
anyway... Children in the house).

Unfortunately, I don't have the manual. Tempstar has no manual on
their site nor do they provide any contact details.

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks

Rich
--
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tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I
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Posted by Bubba on November 12, 2006, 1:40 pm
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:29:55 GMT, Richard Thomas

>We recently bought an older house. The Tempstar PGX (gas/electric) has
>been running fine until this winter came around. The limit switch will
>trip every couple of weeks (it was fine last winter). I'm thinking
>that it might be time for a filter change but I have no idea where it
>might be. Is it internal to the unit itself or is there supposed to be
>a return in the house that has one?
>
>Whoever installed it used some old larger registers as returns and the
>only kind of filtering there was on that was some thin foamy type
>material put down and the register placed on top. Not really much of a
>filter at all if it's supposed to be on the return (and it's gone now
>anyway... Children in the house).
>
>Unfortunately, I don't have the manual. Tempstar has no manual on
>their site nor do they provide any contact details.
>
>Any help much appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Rich

Id be guessing your unit has never been serviced. Too bad. Probably
going to have a dirty blower wheel, motor, inlet side to the cooling
coil and heat exchanger...........not to mention the whole inside of
the unit and any duct work.
Bubba

Posted by Richard Thomas on November 13, 2006, 11:55 pm
wrote:

>Id be guessing your unit has never been serviced. Too bad. Probably
>going to have a dirty blower wheel, motor, inlet side to the cooling
>coil and heat exchanger...........not to mention the whole inside of
>the unit and any duct work.
>Bubba

1)Probably not 2)Yes, too bad. and 3)Thought as much. For a bonus 4),
there was no plumbing installed on where the condensed water comes out
so it settled on the concrete pad and the bottom of the unit is rusty.
There's a 5) I won't even talk about.

Definitely a proper service is long overdue and I intend to take care
of that (or rather getting a professional to take care of it), just
doing some groundwork first. I take it there is no separate filter. My
guess is that I should get a return designed to take proper filters
fitted?

Rich
--
I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I
tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I
know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
--Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by Steve Scott on November 14, 2006, 8:19 am
A filter is pretty much a necessity, but it's more than just a matter
of designing something to hang a filter on. If you're using one of
the 1" rock stoppers you almost might as well not worry about it now.
The 1" "high efficiency" pleated filters will almost certainly add too
much restriction to your system. A good media filter like an
Aprilaire 2200 or 2400 may be too much restriction for your system.

It's not usually not as easy as just a return change.

Check the static pressure at the supply and return and the temp rise
as the system is now. That will tell you what you can do with the
existing duct work.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:55:05 GMT, Richard Thomas

>wrote:
>
>>Id be guessing your unit has never been serviced. Too bad. Probably
>>going to have a dirty blower wheel, motor, inlet side to the cooling
>>coil and heat exchanger...........not to mention the whole inside of
>>the unit and any duct work.
>>Bubba
>
>1)Probably not 2)Yes, too bad. and 3)Thought as much. For a bonus 4),
>there was no plumbing installed on where the condensed water comes out
>so it settled on the concrete pad and the bottom of the unit is rusty.
>There's a 5) I won't even talk about.
>
>Definitely a proper service is long overdue and I intend to take care
>of that (or rather getting a professional to take care of it), just
>doing some groundwork first. I take it there is no separate filter. My
>guess is that I should get a return designed to take proper filters
>fitted?
>
>Rich


--
We're not lost -- we're locationally
challenged. --John M. Ford





Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 14, 2006, 10:10 pm
That wasn't a furnace filter -- that was a capacitor!

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

A filter is pretty much a necessity, but it's more than just a matter
of designing something to hang a filter on. If you're using one of
the 1" rock stoppers you almost might as well not worry about it now.
The 1" "high efficiency" pleated filters will almost certainly add too
much restriction to your system. A good media filter like an
Aprilaire 2200 or 2400 may be too much restriction for your system.

It's not usually not as easy as just a return change.

Check the static pressure at the supply and return and the temp rise
as the system is now. That will tell you what you can do with the
existing duct work.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:55:05 GMT, Richard Thomas

>wrote:
>
>>Id be guessing your unit has never been serviced. Too bad. Probably
>>going to have a dirty blower wheel, motor, inlet side to the cooling
>>coil and heat exchanger...........not to mention the whole inside of
>>the unit and any duct work.
>>Bubba
>
>1)Probably not 2)Yes, too bad. and 3)Thought as much. For a bonus 4),
>there was no plumbing installed on where the condensed water comes
out
>so it settled on the concrete pad and the bottom of the unit is
rusty.
>There's a 5) I won't even talk about.
>
>Definitely a proper service is long overdue and I intend to take care
>of that (or rather getting a professional to take care of it), just
>doing some groundwork first. I take it there is no separate filter.
My
>guess is that I should get a return designed to take proper filters
>fitted?
>
>Rich


--
We're not lost -- we're locationally
challenged. --John M. Ford






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