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Trane Low Ambient Kit Joseph 10-19-2007
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Posted by Joseph on October 20, 2007, 7:51 pm
>
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > I just did startup on three Trane split HPs with low ambient
> kits.
>> > I was called
>> >> >in because the tech who was there doing it said his compressor was
>> > "surging". I get
>> >> >there and get a few things fixed up and started the check out (outside
>> > ambient is
>> >> >below 70 degrees F). The condenser fan is cycling on and off, 3
> seconds
>> > on, 3 seconds
>> >> >off, which basically is causing the fan to speed up and slow down
>> > continually. I
>> >> >thought to myself, "Now that's different" and got out the installers
>> > guide and sure
>> >> >enough that's how it's supposed to work. OK, is it just me or does
> this
>> > sound like a
>> >> >bad idea? I am a big fan of Trane equipment but this has got to be
> hard
>> > on the fan
>> >> >motor and the relay(s) involved.
>> >> >
>> >> > Joseph
>> >>
>> >> Ive never seen a compressor "surge" in all my days yet. He sounds like
>> >> an idiot.
>>
>> The surge was the fan reving up and down.
>>
>> >> Condenser fan on and off 3 seconds at a time. You cant read or you've
>> >> been smoking something. Point me to what/where you read so I can see
>> >> it myself.
>> >> Bubba
>>
>>
>> I don't smoke but I will drink on occasion.
>>
>> This was 7 am and I read it in black and white in the installer's
> guide (at least
>> twice). I'll get a copy of it and post it. I wouldn't shit you guys...
> :)
>>
>>
>> > Somethings wrong no doubt... 3 sec on/off...
>>
>> It's just the way it is designed, no kidding.
>>
>> > That shit wouldn't last long and I thought you couldn't stop a trane.
> :-)
>>
>>
>> Another thing I thought was odd is that these HPs have a
> filter/dryer installed
>> 6 inches from the compressor on the discharge line. I was taught not to
> do that...
>> What's going on??? Was there a meeting I didn't get invited to, where
> these things
>> were thought up???
>>
>> Joseph
>
>
> That's not a filter/drier, it's a muffler.

I don't think so, Trane uses bullet mufflers IIRC.

>
>



Posted by Noon-Air on October 20, 2007, 8:11 pm


>>
>> That's not a filter/drier, it's a muffler.
>
> I don't think so, Trane uses bullet mufflers IIRC.

Ummm..... check again and actually *READ* what it says on it.......it looks
like a filter/dryer, but looks can be deceiving.



Posted by Joseph on October 20, 2007, 8:18 pm
>
>
>>>
>>> That's not a filter/drier, it's a muffler.
>>
>> I don't think so, Trane uses bullet mufflers IIRC.
>
> Ummm..... check again and actually *READ* what it says on it.......it looks
like a
> filter/dryer, but looks can be deceiving.

Yeah I'll have to do that, just saw one through the grille and then checked
a
couple of others and they all had them and the welds looked pretty bad for a
factory
install. I am curious now and will have to go back by and find out.



>
>



Posted by Bubba on October 20, 2007, 9:40 am
wrote:

>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Guys,
>>> >
>>> > I just did startup on three Trane split HPs with low ambient kits.
>> I was called
>>> >in because the tech who was there doing it said his compressor was
>> "surging". I get
>>> >there and get a few things fixed up and started the check out (outside
>> ambient is
>>> >below 70 degrees F). The condenser fan is cycling on and off, 3 seconds
>> on, 3 seconds
>>> >off, which basically is causing the fan to speed up and slow down
>> continually. I
>>> >thought to myself, "Now that's different" and got out the installers
>> guide and sure
>>> >enough that's how it's supposed to work. OK, is it just me or does this
>> sound like a
>>> >bad idea? I am a big fan of Trane equipment but this has got to be hard
>> on the fan
>>> >motor and the relay(s) involved.
>>> >
>>> > Joseph
>>>
>>> Ive never seen a compressor "surge" in all my days yet. He sounds like
>>> an idiot.
>
> The surge was the fan reving up and down.
>
>>> Condenser fan on and off 3 seconds at a time. You cant read or you've
>>> been smoking something. Point me to what/where you read so I can see
>>> it myself.
>>> Bubba
>
>
> I don't smoke but I will drink on occasion.
>
> This was 7 am and I read it in black and white in the installer's guide
(at least
>twice). I'll get a copy of it and post it. I wouldn't shit you guys... :)

Stop reading in the dark at 7am without your glasses on. :-)
>
>
>> Somethings wrong no doubt... 3 sec on/off...
>
> It's just the way it is designed, no kidding.
>
>> That shit wouldn't last long and I thought you couldn't stop a trane. :-)
>
>
> Another thing I thought was odd is that these HPs have a filter/dryer
installed
>6 inches from the compressor on the discharge line.

Hey Joe,
I think someone just showed us that they are not too "worthy" with
that last statement you made. :-)
And YES, I would love for you to post me those install instruction
about the 3 sec on , 3 sec off being correct operation.
Bubba

> I was taught not to do that...
>What's going on??? Was there a meeting I didn't get invited to, where these
things
>were thought up???
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>

Posted by Joseph on October 20, 2007, 8:01 pm
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Guys,
>>>> >
>>>> > I just did startup on three Trane split HPs with low ambient kits.
>>> I was called
>>>> >in because the tech who was there doing it said his compressor was
>>> "surging". I get
>>>> >there and get a few things fixed up and started the check out (outside
>>> ambient is
>>>> >below 70 degrees F). The condenser fan is cycling on and off, 3 seconds
>>> on, 3 seconds
>>>> >off, which basically is causing the fan to speed up and slow down
>>> continually. I
>>>> >thought to myself, "Now that's different" and got out the installers
>>> guide and sure
>>>> >enough that's how it's supposed to work. OK, is it just me or does this
>>> sound like a
>>>> >bad idea? I am a big fan of Trane equipment but this has got to be hard
>>> on the fan
>>>> >motor and the relay(s) involved.
>>>> >
>>>> > Joseph
>>>>
>>>> Ive never seen a compressor "surge" in all my days yet. He sounds like
>>>> an idiot.
>>
>> The surge was the fan reving up and down.
>>
>>>> Condenser fan on and off 3 seconds at a time. You cant read or you've
>>>> been smoking something. Point me to what/where you read so I can see
>>>> it myself.
>>>> Bubba
>>
>>
>> I don't smoke but I will drink on occasion.
>>
>> This was 7 am and I read it in black and white in the installer's guide
(at
>> least
>>twice). I'll get a copy of it and post it. I wouldn't shit you guys... :)
>
> Stop reading in the dark at 7am without your glasses on. :-)
>>
>>
>>> Somethings wrong no doubt... 3 sec on/off...
>>
>> It's just the way it is designed, no kidding.
>>
>>> That shit wouldn't last long and I thought you couldn't stop a trane. :-)
>>
>>
>> Another thing I thought was odd is that these HPs have a filter/dryer
>> installed
>>6 inches from the compressor on the discharge line.
>
> Hey Joe,
> I think someone just showed us that they are not too "worthy" with
> that last statement you made. :-)


OK I'll check the dryers, though I haven't seen Trane put them there before
and
they didn't look like factory welds. IIRC Trane uses bullet dryer/muffler for
the
factory installs.


> And YES, I would love for you to post me those install instruction
> about the 3 sec on , 3 sec off being correct operation.
> Bubba

You got it.


>
>> I was taught not to do that...
>>What's going on??? Was there a meeting I didn't get invited to, where these
things
>>were thought up???
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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