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Trane TWR030C heat pump, poor performance.. winterescape 10-31-2006
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Posted by winterescape on October 31, 2006, 6:05 pm
I have a five year old Trane TWR030C heat pump. As this heating season
started I noticed it running excessively. With a measured airflow over
the indoor coil of 1100CFM and an outdoor temp of 45Deg I am only
getting a temperature rise of 9 degrees over the coil with an indoor
air entering temperature of 70 deg.

The compressor current is 8.98 amps with 235Vac in heating mode.

Today it was warm enough to check the temperature and pressure in
cooling mode, it warmed up to 65 deg and just made it onto the cooling
chart.

ODT 65 deg
Suction temp 49 deg
High side 135
Low side 76
Indoor air entering temp 70 deg

Low head pressure, High suction pressure. Both readings taken at
external service ports.

Any heat pump experts care to comment?
Thanks,
Dave


Posted by pappy on October 31, 2006, 6:59 pm
winterescape wrote:
> I have a five year old Trane TWR030C heat pump. As this heating season

> chart.
>
> ODT 65 deg
> Suction temp 49 deg
> High side 135
> Low side 76
> Indoor air entering temp 70 deg
>
> Low head pressure, High suction pressure. Both readings taken at
> external service ports.
>
> Any heat pump experts care to comment?
> Thanks,
> Dave
Did you try switching the reversing valve while watching your pressures


Posted by pappy on October 31, 2006, 9:17 pm
winterescape wrote:
> I have a five year old Trane TWR030C heat pump. As this heating season
> started I noticed it running excessively. With a measured airflow over

Are there TXV valves in this system?, have you checked pressures in
heating mode? Did you try the simple things like making sure the high
returns are closed in the heating mode, open in the cooling mode, all
registers open, indoor and outdoor coils clean and nothing blocking the
airflow, seems when I get gauge readings that are weird its the simple
things alot of times


Posted by winterescape on November 1, 2006, 11:04 am

Pappy,
Thanks for the advice to look at the simple stuff; I would like an easy
answer to this. The indoor coil has a fccv, not a txv, but the heat
pump does have a txv, don't all heat pumps have one? I did not check
any pressures in heating mode.

The indoor coil is clean as new; the outdoor coil looks good but could
stand to be washed. I did not think much of it because of the
extremely low high side pressure in cooling. Also, the only returns in
the house are high air returns.

Bubba, The details of how I determined airflow were; I used a
"magnehelic" to measure static pressure from below the coil to a
reference point at the filter. The needle actually bounced between 0.4
to 0.5 depending on how the sensing ends were placed in the air stream.
I am aware of the difference in using the different motor speeds taps
in heating and cooling and moved the taps to see the effect on my
readings. The Trane "service facts" sheet has a nice table listing
the airflow at the different motor speeds at a given static pressure.

To double check I measured the temperature rise in heating with the
furnace running.
The Output BTU is specified at 63000 Btu/hr, I did not measure this,
and my temp rise was 47 deg (measured return air boot to plenum delta
T) I then used CFM=BTU/hr divided by temp rise times 1.085.
63000/(47x1.085)= 1235 CFM

The unit is rated at 2.5 ton (the 30 in the part number TWR030C)

What can cause a low High side pressure and a high low side pressure in
cooling mode, in a heat pump, and cause very low btu/hr output in
heating mode?

What things would check, in what order, and how?

Thanks,
Dave


Posted by on November 1, 2006, 6:10 pm

>
>Pappy,
>Thanks for the advice to look at the simple stuff; I would like an easy
>answer to this. The indoor coil has a fccv, not a txv, but the heat
>pump does have a txv, don't all heat pumps have one? I did not check
>any pressures in heating mode.
>
>The indoor coil is clean as new; the outdoor coil looks good but could
>stand to be washed. I did not think much of it because of the
>extremely low high side pressure in cooling. Also, the only returns in
>the house are high air returns.
>
>Bubba, The details of how I determined airflow were; I used a
>"magnehelic" to measure static pressure from below the coil to a
>reference point at the filter. The needle actually bounced between 0.4
>to 0.5 depending on how the sensing ends were placed in the air stream.
> I am aware of the difference in using the different motor speeds taps
>in heating and cooling and moved the taps to see the effect on my
>readings. The Trane "service facts" sheet has a nice table listing
>the airflow at the different motor speeds at a given static pressure.
>
>To double check I measured the temperature rise in heating with the
>furnace running.
>The Output BTU is specified at 63000 Btu/hr, I did not measure this,
>and my temp rise was 47 deg (measured return air boot to plenum delta
>T) I then used CFM=BTU/hr divided by temp rise times 1.085.
>63000/(47x1.085)= 1235 CFM
>
>The unit is rated at 2.5 ton (the 30 in the part number TWR030C)
>

Wide open metering device or stuck reversing valve.
>What can cause a low High side pressure and a high low side pressure in
>cooling mode, in a heat pump, and cause very low btu/hr output in
>heating mode?
>
>What things would check, in what order, and how?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave

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