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Trane Variable Speed Furnace jwalkky 10-30-2007
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Posted by Zyp on November 8, 2007, 4:12 pm
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:39:33 -0600, "geothermaljones"
>
>> Now that is something I did not know...
>>
>> I do know the AC distribution can eat up 20-30%+ of it's power in
>> order to boost it's voltage & keep up the flow,
>> but I've never heard of long distance DC distribution.
>> Any recommendations on a good read to explain it? I'd like to see
>> how it's done...
>>
>> geothermaljones
>>
>>
>>> DC is sometimes used to transmit large amount of power long
>>> distances.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>
> Actually, one of the main reasons AC won out over DC was that
> DC **SUCKS** when it come to distances and transmission. I highly
> doubt that it's used ANYWHERE to long distance transmission.
>
> Google Westinghouse Edison AC DC transmission distance.
>
>
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Wasn't this covered in Electricity 101 back in, oh yea, high school days?

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Posted by on November 8, 2007, 4:20 pm

>.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:39:33 -0600, "geothermaljones"
>>
>>> Now that is something I did not know...
>>>
>>> I do know the AC distribution can eat up 20-30%+ of it's power in
>>> order to boost it's voltage & keep up the flow,
>>> but I've never heard of long distance DC distribution.
>>> Any recommendations on a good read to explain it? I'd like to see
>>> how it's done...
>>>
>>> geothermaljones
>>>
>>>
>>>> DC is sometimes used to transmit large amount of power long
>>>> distances.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>> Actually, one of the main reasons AC won out over DC was that
>> DC **SUCKS** when it come to distances and transmission. I highly
>> doubt that it's used ANYWHERE to long distance transmission.
>>
>> Google Westinghouse Edison AC DC transmission distance.
>>
>
>Wasn't this covered in Electricity 101 back in, oh yea, high school days?

        I dunno - when I was in High School, they only covered
linseed-oil lamps and beeswax candles, that was about it.


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Posted by =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on November 7, 2007, 9:29 pm
geothermaljones posted for all of us...

> Now that is something I did not know...
>
> I do know the AC distribution can eat up 20-30%+ of it's power in order to
> boost it's voltage & keep up the flow,
> but I've never heard of long distance DC distribution.
> Any recommendations on a good read to explain it? I'd like to see how it's
> done...
>
> geothermaljones
>
>
> > DC is sometimes used to transmit large amount of power long distances.
> >
> > Dave
>
Large data centers are actively investigating DC power supplies directly to the
systems to save on cooling costs and conversion losses by built in power
supplies.
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Posted by on November 7, 2007, 9:28 pm
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC), davem@cs.ubc.ca (Dave
Martindale) wrote:

>
>>See, DC is a much more efficient powersource when use in close proximity of
>>production.
>
>DC *at the voltage you happen to need* is more efficient than AC,
>because there are no transformer losses. But if the voltages don't
>match, it's much more complicated and expensive to change voltage with
>DC.

        Bullshit. It takes a resistor.

>>Unfortunately the DC supply to a power grid in an urban area would require
>>huge quantities of copper to transmit.
>>Now if they'd just have used more localized transformers & generation, we'd
>>all be saving energy.

        Bullshit. If that was cheaper, they'd have done it ( to save
themselves money ).

>
>There are probably only a few houses sharing the same pole transformer
>(and thus the same 120/240 V supply). All other distribution is done at
>higher voltage. To get the same efficiency (both electric and copper
>usage) with DC, you'd need a source for every few houses. But
>generators that small aren't very clean or efficient.

        Correct.

>
>Centralized generation and AC distribution, using several levels of
>voltage, makes much more sense for supplying homes.
>
>DC is sometimes used to transmit large amount of power long distances.

        I doubt it. There may be some tiny exception you can scrounge
up, but 99.999 % of long distance transmission is AC.




>
>        Dave

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