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Trane XV90 Cooling/Circulation Question Kim 06-24-2007
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Posted by Noon-Air on June 25, 2007, 8:58 am
Hunter makes great ceiling fans, but their thermostats suck....kind of like
going to Waffle House to get a steak. Get a thermostat that will support 2
stage equipment, and run at least 18/5 control wire from the stat to the
furnace. OR you can fall the boneheads out that installed the furnace and
make them finish the job.

> Yea 2 wires. It was the existing setup for the T/Stat and my old 1960`s
> furnace. One of the reasons I`m not too happy with the install. It`s not
> wrong but certainly not right. I`ll have too run some wiring I guess along
> with a new T/Stat. Can the wireless or FastStat be two stage variable?
> Jeff
>> JKBK wrote:
>>
>>> Thermostat is a Hunter Energy Monitor 5+2 Programmable. It has 2 manual
>>> switches: Fan/auto and AC/Off/Heat. Dont see a model. I`ve played with
>>> the settings/switches and dont see any air flow from the furnace which
>>> doesn`t seem to be running.
>>> As for dealing with the company that installed the system, I think
>>> they`re a bunch of idiots. Funny thing is I used Home Depot`s company to
>>> get good service instead of the mediocre service I got.
>>> The question of wiring comes to mind. I only have 2 (B&W) wires for the
>>> T/Stat to furnace. I would expect more to control multiple functions
>>> right?
>>> Lastly is there a suggestion on T/Stat models? Should I go with the
>>> Trane models? I`ve picked up several models in the $100 and less range
>>> but they didnt cut it for the 2 stage.
>>> http://www.trane.com/residential/products/thermostats.aspx
>>> The XL800 mentions having a "circulate "mode.
>>> Thanks for the answers.
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Can the Trane without AC be used to circulate household air with the
>>>>>right thermostat?
>>>>>
>>>>>Looking for an answer to this question before I talk to a dealer about
>>>>>bigger options. We had a high efficiency XV90 installed last year after
>>>>>getting a few quotes on different units. Our house is older and suffers
>>>>>from high humidity downstairs(basement) and I want to circulate the air
>>>>>around the house. As we live in Edmonton Canada, we dont feel the need
>>>>>for AC, in fact, if we could balance the cool downstairs with the
>>>>>warmer upstairs, it would be close to ideal. This could be done by a
>>>>>manual blower switch on my old furnace.
>>>>>Can the Trane be run in blower mode only using the proper thermostat or
>>>>>do we need some type of AC/Air filtration unit? The contractor said
>>>>>that we didnt need a new thermostat as we had a digital one but over
>>>>>the past year, we have found out that its a single stage that doesnt
>>>>>properly control the fiurnace( No variable speed. 2 stage works on
>>>>>furnace internal 5 minute default. So much for top of the line!! I
>>>>>suspect the contractor said it would work fine to keep this cost down
>>>>>and get the install.)
>>>>>Thanks for the advice
>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>Don't you have a thermostat which can set fan in auto, off, on mode?
>>>>You don't have a thermostat for two stage heating? What model is your
>>>>thermostat?
>>>>Tony
>>>>Calgary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>> Two wires? Whoever installed it, they are NOT GOOD! No wonder it does not
>> work, Can you run extra wires(at least 5, 6 more) or is there some
>> unused wires already in place. Worst case, you can use wireless
>> thermostat or there is something called Fast-stat.
>> Tony
>> Calgary
>
>



Posted by Tony Hwang on June 25, 2007, 11:00 am
Noon-Air wrote:
> Hunter makes great ceiling fans, but their thermostats suck....kind of like
> going to Waffle House to get a steak. Get a thermostat that will support 2
> stage equipment, and run at least 18/5 control wire from the stat to the
> furnace. OR you can fall the boneheads out that installed the furnace and
> make them finish the job.
>
>
>>Yea 2 wires. It was the existing setup for the T/Stat and my old 1960`s
>>furnace. One of the reasons I`m not too happy with the install. It`s not
>>wrong but certainly not right. I`ll have too run some wiring I guess along
>>with a new T/Stat. Can the wireless or FastStat be two stage variable?
>>Jeff
>>
>>>JKBK wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thermostat is a Hunter Energy Monitor 5+2 Programmable. It has 2 manual
>>>>switches: Fan/auto and AC/Off/Heat. Dont see a model. I`ve played with
>>>>the settings/switches and dont see any air flow from the furnace which
>>>>doesn`t seem to be running.
>>>>As for dealing with the company that installed the system, I think
>>>>they`re a bunch of idiots. Funny thing is I used Home Depot`s company to
>>>>get good service instead of the mediocre service I got.
>>>>The question of wiring comes to mind. I only have 2 (B&W) wires for the
>>>>T/Stat to furnace. I would expect more to control multiple functions
>>>>right?
>>>>Lastly is there a suggestion on T/Stat models? Should I go with the
>>>>Trane models? I`ve picked up several models in the $100 and less range
>>>>but they didnt cut it for the 2 stage.
>>>>http://www.trane.com/residential/products/thermostats.aspx
>>>>The XL800 mentions having a "circulate "mode.
>>>>Thanks for the answers.
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can the Trane without AC be used to circulate household air with the
>>>>>>right thermostat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looking for an answer to this question before I talk to a dealer about
>>>>>>bigger options. We had a high efficiency XV90 installed last year after
>>>>>>getting a few quotes on different units. Our house is older and suffers
>>>>>
>>>>>>from high humidity downstairs(basement) and I want to circulate the air
>>>>>
>>>>>>around the house. As we live in Edmonton Canada, we dont feel the need
>>>>>>for AC, in fact, if we could balance the cool downstairs with the
>>>>>>warmer upstairs, it would be close to ideal. This could be done by a
>>>>>>manual blower switch on my old furnace.
>>>>>>Can the Trane be run in blower mode only using the proper thermostat or
>>>>>>do we need some type of AC/Air filtration unit? The contractor said
>>>>>>that we didnt need a new thermostat as we had a digital one but over
>>>>>>the past year, we have found out that its a single stage that doesnt
>>>>>>properly control the fiurnace( No variable speed. 2 stage works on
>>>>>>furnace internal 5 minute default. So much for top of the line!! I
>>>>>>suspect the contractor said it would work fine to keep this cost down
>>>>>>and get the install.)
>>>>>>Thanks for the advice
>>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>Don't you have a thermostat which can set fan in auto, off, on mode?
>>>>>You don't have a thermostat for two stage heating? What model is your
>>>>>thermostat?
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>Calgary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Two wires? Whoever installed it, they are NOT GOOD! No wonder it does not
>>>work, Can you run extra wires(at least 5, 6 more) or is there some
>>>unused wires already in place. Worst case, you can use wireless
>>>thermostat or there is something called Fast-stat.
>>>Tony
>>>Calgary
>>
>>
>
>
Hmmm,
I'd call the original installer back and let them finish it properly.
And give them a heck for not doing it right first time.
And Hunter thermostat is known for poor quality. For good robust
thermostat, I like Honeywell Vision Pro 8000.

Posted by Kim on June 25, 2007, 5:06 pm
18/5 wire and a Honeywell Vision Pro 8000.Thanks guys. It`s difficult to
find out about the 2 stage variable heat functions of a T/Stat in the store
so when I ask about cooling I get some great looks.
As for the boneheads, I gave up. I had them out to correct three problems
BUT the T/stat wasnt in the contract. Neither was a condensate pump so they
just started to put a plastic line down on my concrete floor to the drain
about 6 feet away right through my laundry room high traffic area. $150
extra for the pump! So much for going with a reputable dealer.
Jeff

> Hunter makes great ceiling fans, but their thermostats suck....kind of
> like going to Waffle House to get a steak. Get a thermostat that will
> support 2 stage equipment, and run at least 18/5 control wire from the
> stat to the furnace. OR you can fall the boneheads out that installed the
> furnace and make them finish the job.
>
>> Yea 2 wires. It was the existing setup for the T/Stat and my old 1960`s
>> furnace. One of the reasons I`m not too happy with the install. It`s not
>> wrong but certainly not right. I`ll have too run some wiring I guess
>> along with a new T/Stat. Can the wireless or FastStat be two stage
>> variable?
>> Jeff
>>> JKBK wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thermostat is a Hunter Energy Monitor 5+2 Programmable. It has 2 manual
>>>> switches: Fan/auto and AC/Off/Heat. Dont see a model. I`ve played with
>>>> the settings/switches and dont see any air flow from the furnace which
>>>> doesn`t seem to be running.
>>>> As for dealing with the company that installed the system, I think
>>>> they`re a bunch of idiots. Funny thing is I used Home Depot`s company
>>>> to get good service instead of the mediocre service I got.
>>>> The question of wiring comes to mind. I only have 2 (B&W) wires for the
>>>> T/Stat to furnace. I would expect more to control multiple functions
>>>> right?
>>>> Lastly is there a suggestion on T/Stat models? Should I go with the
>>>> Trane models? I`ve picked up several models in the $100 and less range
>>>> but they didnt cut it for the 2 stage.
>>>> http://www.trane.com/residential/products/thermostats.aspx
>>>> The XL800 mentions having a "circulate "mode.
>>>> Thanks for the answers.
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can the Trane without AC be used to circulate household air with the
>>>>>>right thermostat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looking for an answer to this question before I talk to a dealer about
>>>>>>bigger options. We had a high efficiency XV90 installed last year
>>>>>>after getting a few quotes on different units. Our house is older and
>>>>>>suffers from high humidity downstairs(basement) and I want to
>>>>>>circulate the air around the house. As we live in Edmonton Canada, we
>>>>>>dont feel the need for AC, in fact, if we could balance the cool
>>>>>>downstairs with the warmer upstairs, it would be close to ideal. This
>>>>>>could be done by a manual blower switch on my old furnace.
>>>>>>Can the Trane be run in blower mode only using the proper thermostat
>>>>>>or do we need some type of AC/Air filtration unit? The contractor
>>>>>>said that we didnt need a new thermostat as we had a digital one but
>>>>>>over the past year, we have found out that its a single stage that
>>>>>>doesnt properly control the fiurnace( No variable speed. 2 stage works
>>>>>>on furnace internal 5 minute default. So much for top of the line!! I
>>>>>>suspect the contractor said it would work fine to keep this cost down
>>>>>>and get the install.)
>>>>>>Thanks for the advice
>>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>Don't you have a thermostat which can set fan in auto, off, on mode?
>>>>>You don't have a thermostat for two stage heating? What model is your
>>>>>thermostat?
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>Calgary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Two wires? Whoever installed it, they are NOT GOOD! No wonder it does
>>> not work, Can you run extra wires(at least 5, 6 more) or is there some
>>> unused wires already in place. Worst case, you can use wireless
>>> thermostat or there is something called Fast-stat.
>>> Tony
>>> Calgary
>>
>>
>
>



Posted by Big_Jake on June 25, 2007, 7:24 pm
> 18/5 wire and a Honeywell Vision Pro 8000.Thanks guys. It`s difficult to
> find out about the 2 stage variable heat functions of a T/Stat in the store
> so when I ask about cooling I get some great looks.
> As for the boneheads, I gave up. I had them out to correct three problems
> BUT the T/stat wasnt in the contract. Neither was a condensate pump so they
> just started to put a plastic line down on my concrete floor to the drain
> about 6 feet away right through my laundry room high traffic area. $150
> extra for the pump! So much for going with a reputable dealer.
> Jeff
>
>
>
> > Hunter makes great ceiling fans, but their thermostats suck....kind of
> > like going to Waffle House to get a steak. Get a thermostat that will
> > support 2 stage equipment, and run at least 18/5 control wire from the
> > stat to the furnace. OR you can fall the boneheads out that installed the
> > furnace and make them finish the job.
>
> >> Yea 2 wires. It was the existing setup for the T/Stat and my old 1960`s
> >> furnace. One of the reasons I`m not too happy with the install. It`s not
> >> wrong but certainly not right. I`ll have too run some wiring I guess
> >> along with a new T/Stat. Can the wireless or FastStat be two stage
> >> variable?
> >> Jeff
> >>> JKBK wrote:
>
> >>>> Thermostat is a Hunter Energy Monitor 5+2 Programmable. It has 2 manual
> >>>> switches: Fan/auto and AC/Off/Heat. Dont see a model. I`ve played with
> >>>> the settings/switches and dont see any air flow from the furnace which
> >>>> doesn`t seem to be running.
> >>>> As for dealing with the company that installed the system, I think
> >>>> they`re a bunch of idiots. Funny thing is I used Home Depot`s company
> >>>> to get good service instead of the mediocre service I got.
> >>>> The question of wiring comes to mind. I only have 2 (B&W) wires for the
> >>>> T/Stat to furnace. I would expect more to control multiple functions
> >>>> right?
> >>>> Lastly is there a suggestion on T/Stat models? Should I go with the
> >>>> Trane models? I`ve picked up several models in the $100 and less range
> >>>> but they didnt cut it for the 2 stage.
> >>>>http://www.trane.com/residential/products/thermostats.aspx
> >>>> The XL800 mentions having a "circulate "mode.
> >>>> Thanks for the answers.
> >>>> Jeff
>
>
> >>>>>Kim wrote:
>
> >>>>>>Can the Trane without AC be used to circulate household air with the
> >>>>>>right thermostat?
>
> >>>>>>Looking for an answer to this question before I talk to a dealer about
> >>>>>>bigger options. We had a high efficiency XV90 installed last year
> >>>>>>after getting a few quotes on different units. Our house is older and
> >>>>>>suffers from high humidity downstairs(basement) and I want to
> >>>>>>circulate the air around the house. As we live in Edmonton Canada, we
> >>>>>>dont feel the need for AC, in fact, if we could balance the cool
> >>>>>>downstairs with the warmer upstairs, it would be close to ideal. This
> >>>>>>could be done by a manual blower switch on my old furnace.
> >>>>>>Can the Trane be run in blower mode only using the proper thermostat
> >>>>>>or do we need some type of AC/Air filtration unit? The contractor
> >>>>>>said that we didnt need a new thermostat as we had a digital one but
> >>>>>>over the past year, we have found out that its a single stage that
> >>>>>>doesnt properly control the fiurnace( No variable speed. 2 stage works
> >>>>>>on furnace internal 5 minute default. So much for top of the line!! I
> >>>>>>suspect the contractor said it would work fine to keep this cost down
> >>>>>>and get the install.)
> >>>>>>Thanks for the advice
> >>>>>>Jeff
>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>Don't you have a thermostat which can set fan in auto, off, on mode?
> >>>>>You don't have a thermostat for two stage heating? What model is your
> >>>>>thermostat?
> >>>>>Tony
> >>>>>Calgary.
>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Two wires? Whoever installed it, they are NOT GOOD! No wonder it does
> >>> not work, Can you run extra wires(at least 5, 6 more) or is there some
> >>> unused wires already in place. Worst case, you can use wireless
> >>> thermostat or there is something called Fast-stat.
> >>> Tony
> >>> Calgary

The VisionPro also allows you to set the fan to "Circ" which runs it
occasionally to move the air around, which is what you were asking
about in your initial post.

JK




Posted by on June 25, 2007, 11:21 pm

> 18/5 wire and a Honeywell Vision Pro 8000.Thanks guys. It`s difficult to
> find out about the 2 stage variable heat functions of a T/Stat in the
store
> so when I ask about cooling I get some great looks.
> As for the boneheads, I gave up. I had them out to correct three problems
> BUT the T/stat wasnt in the contract. Neither was a condensate pump so
they
> just started to put a plastic line down on my concrete floor to the drain
> about 6 feet away right through my laundry room high traffic area. $150
> extra for the pump! So much for going with a reputable dealer.
> Jeff


I always include the pump (and always install it), yet I get clients who
tell me to run it accross the floor to the drain. LOL



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