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Trane ignitor cost rmcaskey@comcast.net 12-15-2006
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Posted by Steve Scott on December 16, 2006, 12:32 am
What's this? Just how cheap can we do a job? No wonder more than 95%
of our businesses fail in the first 5 years.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:41:16 -0700, "Nathan In Montana"

>> (Trane's part number
>> IGN00117) is to find and how much it costs. Last year I was charged
>> $336 for the part and $99 for installation.
>
>i hope you got a kiss with that. if its the same ignitor that i think it
>is, it cost me $13 which means ill charge you $39 for the part + 1 hour
>labor at $60 + $10 trip charge = $109.


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Posted by Nathan In Montana on December 16, 2006, 12:44 pm
> What's this? Just how cheap can we do a job?

not at all. i make a good, _honest_ living. theres no need in charging
more than whats fair, and its foolish to charge substantially more than your
local market will bare. charging $300 or $400 for swapping an ignitor is
flat out dishonest. it takes 15-20 minutes to diagnose and swap an ignitor.
figure another 20 minutes or so in travel time and another 10 minutes to do
a combustion analysis (standard on every furnace i service) and there is no
way to justify any more.


> No wonder more than 95%
> of our businesses fail in the first 5 years.

i know its easy to blame your failures on others, but in reality thats not
how the business world works. if you fail, its _your_ fault.

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Posted by Steve Scott on December 16, 2006, 2:44 pm
Nathan, send me an e-mail when you get a chance.

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:44:48 -0700, "Nathan In Montana"


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Posted by Steve Scott on December 16, 2006, 2:45 pm
Kerist, not another "what the market will bare" contractor.

Nathan, based on other posts you've made I think you and I are alike
in many ways philosophically, but very different business wise. What
the market will bare has NOTHING to do with what you need to charge to
cover your OH and make your desired net after tax profit.

You're in business. You need to make more than "a good, honest
living" if you're going to stay in business.

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:44:48 -0700, "Nathan In Montana"

>> What's this? Just how cheap can we do a job?
>
>not at all. i make a good, _honest_ living. theres no need in charging
>more than whats fair, and its foolish to charge substantially more than your
>local market will bare. charging $300 or $400 for swapping an ignitor is
>flat out dishonest. it takes 15-20 minutes to diagnose and swap an ignitor.
>figure another 20 minutes or so in travel time and another 10 minutes to do
>a combustion analysis (standard on every furnace i service) and there is no
>way to justify any more.
>
>
>> No wonder more than 95%
>> of our businesses fail in the first 5 years.
>
>i know its easy to blame your failures on others, but in reality thats not
>how the business world works. if you fail, its _your_ fault.


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Posted by Nathan In Montana on December 16, 2006, 3:02 pm
> Kerist, not another "what the market will bare" contractor.

this is not los angeles, new york, chicago, or any other area where there is
an endless supply of "fresh meat" to gouge and wring every penny from
possible. this is billings montana, a big small city where word travels
fast. if i charged 4X as much as my competition i wouldnt have _any_ work
at all. i charge what i consider to be a fair price. if i cant make a good
living by being honest, then im in the wrong business anyway. integrity is
the cornerstone of my operation. maybe ill never grow as big as some, but
ill always be able to look at myself in the mirror and live with the
decisions ive made.


> What
> the market will bare has NOTHING to do with what you need to charge to
> cover your OH and make your desired net after tax profit.

how much is enough? my help is happy with what they make, im happy with
what i make, and my customers are just as happy with my pricing as they are
with the quality of work we do. its not that im trying to do it cheaper
than my competition. to the contrary, my goal is to do it _better_ than my
competition but if i can do it better while still coming in a little cheaper
(through efficiency, not rates) then everybody wins.

.....besides, with my current pricing i was able to do over $11,000 worth of
charity work this past year and somehow still afford to support my gun
buying habits (over $12,000 this year alone). :-)

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http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Tech.com
http://GlockCarry.com


>
> You're in business. You need to make more than "a good, honest
> living" if you're going to stay in business.



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