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Posted by Ed on April 23, 2007, 10:06 am
> For Fish
>
> I have no friggin idea. =A0I guess, in our neck of the woods at least, =
=A0the
> leads they were getting were more tire kicker and shit leads that the TCS
> dealers didn't want to waste time on. =A0Our Trane reps decide who gets t=
he
> stores. =A0It still takes forever to get one (months). =A0I became a TCS =
dealer
> about 2 years ago, I have been trying to get into a HD for about 8 months.
> I finally got through all the hurdles to get approved by HD only to find =
out
> that they were using it to woo Lennox dealers in and giving to non TCS
> dealers. =A0I spent monhts developing a program to man the stores constan=
tly
> and get appt takers that could communicate with the customers logically.
> Right now a non TCS oil dealer is in there not manning the store, just
> gettting the call in leads. =A0Before that was a huge Lennox dealer they =
were
> trying to get to sell Trane. =A0I was told they would review how the stor=
e was
> doing in about 6 months. =A0I think it is all BS.

Around here they can't GIVE the Home Depot locations away. The largest
Trane dealer in town switched to AS and left Home Depot without a
dealer. Several smaller dealers were approached to look it over and
after studying the numbers, respectfully declined.

Ed


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Posted by B-Hate-Me on April 23, 2007, 3:24 pm


Around here they can't GIVE the Home Depot locations away. The largest
Trane dealer in town switched to AS and left Home Depot without a
dealer. Several smaller dealers were approached to look it over and
after studying the numbers, respectfully declined.

Ed


That's just plain dumb.

I sell both AS and Trane. I am a Home Depot guy too.

Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.


PS- I do at least twice the # of boiler leads from HD
than heat & A/C combined.



Posted by Ed on April 25, 2007, 3:12 pm
>
>
> Around here they can't GIVE the Home Depot locations away. The largest
> Trane dealer in town switched to AS and left Home Depot without a
> dealer. Several smaller dealers were approached to look it over and
> after studying the numbers, respectfully declined.
>
> Ed
>
> That's just plain dumb.
>
> I sell both AS and Trane. I am a Home Depot guy too.

We aren't allowed to do that here. We buy from a DSO and they require
a dealer agreement, either sell Trane OR American Standard, not both.

>
> Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.

I think thats the problem, the number of leads generated. After
staffing the store and paying HD their cut, the only ones guaranteed
to make money on the deal are Trane and Home Depot. If the customer
shops the price for like equipment, smaller companies win.

>
> PS- I do at least twice the # of boiler leads from HD
> than heat & A/C combined.

Here in Louisiana we don't sell boilers for residential, mostly all
forced air. Boilers here are usually only for the commercial/
industrial market.

Ed



Posted by on April 25, 2007, 5:56 pm

>>
>>
>> Around here they can't GIVE the Home Depot locations away. The largest
>> Trane dealer in town switched to AS and left Home Depot without a
>> dealer. Several smaller dealers were approached to look it over and
>> after studying the numbers, respectfully declined.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> That's just plain dumb.
>>
>> I sell both AS and Trane. I am a Home Depot guy too.
>
>We aren't allowed to do that here. We buy from a DSO and they require
>a dealer agreement, either sell Trane OR American Standard, not both.
>
>>
>> Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.
>
>I think thats the problem, the number of leads generated. After
>staffing the store and paying HD their cut, the only ones guaranteed
>to make money on the deal are Trane and Home Depot. If the customer
>shops the price for like equipment, smaller companies win.
>
>>
>> PS- I do at least twice the # of boiler leads from HD
>> than heat & A/C combined.
>
>Here in Louisiana we don't sell boilers for residential, mostly all
>forced air. Boilers here are usually only for the commercial/
>industrial market.
>
>Ed
>

Ed, does the DSO have the same requirements for commercial contracors
in that they must sign up as a 'dealer'?

Personally I thinks its 'interesting' how Trane & AS are marketed and
sold, especially now that 'American Standard' is in the process of
legally changing their name to 'Trane'.

Posted by Ed on April 26, 2007, 10:44 pm
On Apr 25, 4:56=EF=BF=BDpm, gof...@gonefishin.net wrote:
>
>
> >> Around here they can't GIVE the Home Depot locations away. The largest
> >> Trane dealer in town switched to AS and left Home Depot without a
> >> dealer. Several smaller dealers were approached to look it over and
> >> after studying the numbers, respectfully declined.
>
> >> Ed
>
> >> That's just plain dumb.
>
> >> I sell both AS and Trane. I am a Home Depot guy too.
>
> >We aren't allowed to do that here. We buy from a DSO and they require
> >a dealer agreement, either sell Trane OR American Standard, not both.
>
> >> Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.......Gimme leads.
>
> >I think thats the problem, the number of leads generated. After
> >staffing the store and paying HD their cut, the only ones guaranteed
> >to make money on the deal are Trane and Home Depot. If the customer
> >shops the price for like equipment, smaller companies win.
>
> >> PS- I do at least twice the # of boiler leads from HD
> >> than heat & A/C combined.
>
> >Here in Louisiana we don't sell boilers for residential, mostly all
> >forced air. Boilers here are usually only for the commercial/
> >industrial market.
>
> >Ed
>
> Ed, does the DSO have the same requirements for commercial contracors
> in that they must sign up as a 'dealer'? =A0
>
> Personally I thinks its 'interesting' how Trane & AS are marketed and
> sold, especially now that 'American Standard' is in the process of
> legally changing their name to 'Trane'.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't believe the requirements are the same. If an engineer/
architect quoted " Trane or equivalent " for a commercial rooftop job,
then Trane is obligated to furnish everyone bidding a quote. I hadn't
heard that about AS, interesting indeed.

Ed


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