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UPDATE #1 -- Re: A/C problem, need help ASAP Ignoramus2645 08-02-2006
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Posted by Danny G. on August 5, 2006, 3:54 pm

> Richard J Kinch wrote:
>> mm writes:
>>
>>
>>>So what's your point. They won't be selling it here, except as the
>>>schedule provides.
>>>
>>>I don't think you read the chart very carefully. It clearly states
>>>that R-22 will be available in the US for ACs made before 2010. And
>>>that that will be its status until 2020, after which it won't be
>>>legally available IN THE US.
>>
>>
>> The point is simply that liberal environmentalists have gotten the US
government to forcibly create a completely artificial
>> shortage (in the US only) of an economically very valuable substance.
>
> Not to mention the fact that Dow allegedly had
> their snout in the trough. Their patents had
> expired on the 'bad' freon. Since the 'good' freon
> has fresh patents and sells for a lot more than
> the 'bad' they stand to make a buttload of money
> off the deal.


Freon is just a name Dow patent and not whats actually in the jug.








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Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on August 5, 2006, 10:09 pm
Freon is like LPG - you get what is handy and useful. Propane in the winter
butane in the summer or a mixture all year round or a mix of this and that with
enough Propane to give the boost. Once there were Propane dealers - now only
LPG.

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Danny G. wrote:
>
>>Richard J Kinch wrote:
>>
>>>mm writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>So what's your point. They won't be selling it here, except as the
>>>>schedule provides.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think you read the chart very carefully. It clearly states
>>>>that R-22 will be available in the US for ACs made before 2010. And
>>>>that that will be its status until 2020, after which it won't be
>>>>legally available IN THE US.
>>>
>>>
>>>The point is simply that liberal environmentalists have gotten the US
government to forcibly create a completely artificial
>>>shortage (in the US only) of an economically very valuable substance.
>>
>>Not to mention the fact that Dow allegedly had
>>their snout in the trough. Their patents had
>>expired on the 'bad' freon. Since the 'good' freon
>>has fresh patents and sells for a lot more than
>>the 'bad' they stand to make a buttload of money
>>off the deal.
>
>
>
> Freon is just a name Dow patent and not whats actually in the jug.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Posted by ~^Johnny^~ on August 8, 2006, 9:53 pm
wrote:

>
>> Richard J Kinch wrote:
>>> mm writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>So what's your point. They won't be selling it here, except as the
>>>>schedule provides.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think you read the chart very carefully. It clearly states
>>>>that R-22 will be available in the US for ACs made before 2010. And
>>>>that that will be its status until 2020, after which it won't be
>>>>legally available IN THE US.
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is simply that liberal environmentalists have gotten the US
government to forcibly create a completely artificial
>>> shortage (in the US only) of an economically very valuable substance.
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that Dow allegedly had
>> their snout in the trough. Their patents had
>> expired on the 'bad' freon. Since the 'good' freon
>> has fresh patents and sells for a lot more than
>> the 'bad' they stand to make a buttload of money
>> off the deal.
>
>
>Freon is just a name Dow patent and not whats actually in the jug.

Nothing is freon this planet anyway.

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

Posted by ~^Johnny^~ on August 8, 2006, 9:47 pm
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:17:44 -0500, Richard J Kinch

>Remember, a $50 drum of R-12 bought in 1990

Where? I was paying $70 for 30 lb disposable tanks in 1990,
OTC wholesale, in Caalifornia. It was $50 for 30 lb back about
1985-86.

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

Posted by DoN. Nichols on August 3, 2006, 5:42 pm
>
>
> >>> I am now convinced that it is true, the compressor unit is dead. These
> >>> guys that service my equipment are in my town, a trip should not be
> >>> too much for them, and also, after looking at the outside unit, I
> >>> think that I want something better.
>
> Now that we know that what you have is *probably* a Goodman/Janitrol, or an
> Intertherm, fill us in on a few more details... Is it a house or a trailer??
> Is it gas heat?? or electric?? The answers will determine what
> recommendations you will get. While you are thinking about replacement,
> check this link for a little food for thought.
> http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html

        Hmm ... are there substitutes for R-22 (HCFC-22 in their list)?

        If not -- are there satisfactory refrigerants for the purpose
with a change of compressor and A-coil?

        If not -- what will we do with global warming?

        Enjoy,
                DoN.

--
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