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Posted by Mo Hoaner on June 4, 2007, 7:37 pm
> Mo Hoaner wrote:
> First off this is not spam..
Uhh.... Yes it is, spammer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup_spam
> Second, don't voice an opinion unless you have the knowledge to do so.
The only "opinions" that I voiced is the fact that you are spamming this
newsgroup, and that one of your justifications for the need of these
devices - in part - is because "hospitals have been using UVC light
technology...." Whether a hospital uses something is irrelevant. The
examples I gave are valid. I totally agree with "don't voice an opinion
unless you have the knowledge to do so" in that you are nothing more than a
guy trying desperately to make a few coins spamming newsgroups.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=uvclightpurification.com Based on
the information on your web page, all you are is someone trying to sell
something made by a company that doesn't even list you as an authorized
distributor. http://www.altruv.com/index.asp For that matter, the reps they
do list are mostly HVAC companies, and are therefore qualified to make a
determination as to whether one of these systems is appropriate for a given
application. I've been unable to find anyone with your last name (James the
3rd) listed as being licensed in any relevant field in NJ.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=uvclightpurification.com
> Third, If you read what was posted read further to understand that the
> products does in fact have many benefits.
Absolutely not the issue here.
> Last and final you statements are ridiculous about hospitals. You could
> not buy those products psycho. Products are not sold publicly if they
> impose a danger.
Lets see (for a while anyway...) I buy a UV-C system from you, hook em up to
some power 'cause I want to see the pretty light. 5 minutes go by, and I
decide "that's cool" and unhook it. 2 hours later, I've got a real good case
of "sand in eyes" from the dead skin flaking off my corneas. As far as the
X-ray machine issue... There's nothing to stop you from buying one. (click
on the link, he'll sell it to you) It's what you do with it after you get
it. Cars, knives, and chainsaws can be pretty dangerous in the wrong hands.
Yup. That's not for you. It's for HVAC companies that are contracted to
provide systems under GSA contract.
> http://www.uvclightpurification.com/MKT141%20Rev%20A.pdf
> So you may want to argue with them also.
Why? I'm not selling anything here. If I were, and they require it, there
would be profit on the equipment, and money to be made on the install hours.
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Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 4, 2007, 8:04 pm
Mo Hoaner wrote:
>> Mo Hoaner wrote:
>> First off this is not spam..
>
> Uhh.... Yes it is, spammer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup_spam
>
>> Second, don't voice an opinion unless you have the knowledge to do so.
>
> The only "opinions" that I voiced is the fact that you are spamming this
> newsgroup, and that one of your justifications for the need of these
> devices - in part - is because "hospitals have been using UVC light
> technology...." Whether a hospital uses something is irrelevant. The
> examples I gave are valid. I totally agree with "don't voice an opinion
> unless you have the knowledge to do so" in that you are nothing more than a
> guy trying desperately to make a few coins spamming newsgroups.
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=uvclightpurification.com Based on
> the information on your web page, all you are is someone trying to sell
> something made by a company that doesn't even list you as an authorized
> distributor. http://www.altruv.com/index.asp For that matter, the reps they
> do list are mostly HVAC companies, and are therefore qualified to make a
> determination as to whether one of these systems is appropriate for a given
> application. I've been unable to find anyone with your last name (James the
> 3rd) listed as being licensed in any relevant field in NJ.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=uvclightpurification.com
>> Third, If you read what was posted read further to understand that the
>> products does in fact have many benefits.
>
> Absolutely not the issue here.
>
>> Last and final you statements are ridiculous about hospitals. You could
>> not buy those products psycho. Products are not sold publicly if they
>> impose a danger.
>
> Lets see (for a while anyway...) I buy a UV-C system from you, hook em up to
> some power 'cause I want to see the pretty light. 5 minutes go by, and I
> decide "that's cool" and unhook it. 2 hours later, I've got a real good case
> of "sand in eyes" from the dead skin flaking off my corneas. As far as the
> X-ray machine issue... There's nothing to stop you from buying one. (click
> on the link, he'll sell it to you) It's what you do with it after you get
> it. Cars, knives, and chainsaws can be pretty dangerous in the wrong hands.
>
>
> Yup. That's not for you. It's for HVAC companies that are contracted to
> provide systems under GSA contract.
>
>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com/MKT141%20Rev%20A.pdf
>> So you may want to argue with them also.
>
> Why? I'm not selling anything here. If I were, and they require it, there
> would be profit on the equipment, and money to be made on the install hours.
>
>
Some of you are trying so hard to keep implying that I am spamming. Yes
I do have a website there is nothing to purchase on it. I did post in
some differnt groups to get thier imput just as I did here. As to me
not being an authorized distributor I am. Their site was updated and
some information still needs to be placed.
Just because I am not an HVAC company that does not disqualify as to
what I may know about these products as well as HVAC.
First off I didn't sell you anything. There are some precautions to
take with UV-C light, if they should be misused as in any application
they do impose a danger. So I would not suggest powering one up and
looking at the light.
Hospitals are relevant because this technology kills in the same manner
in a HVAC application.
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
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Thank You
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Posted by Tony on June 4, 2007, 12:16 pm
You right Jim UVC would help lots of people and specially those
that suffer with allergies,
It would also be nice that AC companies include into system as
option DeHumidity coil that could be hook up separately from AC
with SS drip pan. it would be also nice Swiss masseur to gave
massage once a while. Mmmmm I in wrong business
Tony
> This system will save: energy costs, * the life of the HVAC system,
> Kill any * viruses, * mold, * mildew, and * bacteria that come in contact
> with the UVC light. This will prevent the * microbial from being
> circulated throughout the building.
> It is in my belief with proven fact that there are millions of
> Americans that are suffering needlessly with allergen symptoms. Being one
> of the more predominate problems, as I am sure all of you are aware of “*
> dust mites” and the ill effects that they have.
> The services that I propose will not only be of help to those
> allergen suffers, but will indeed be of great help to all. Children can
> develop asthma from the “dust mites”; people whom have no allergies can
> develop them.
> As you are aware of hospitals have been using UVC light technology in
> the area of fifty years plus, for such purposes as TB Wards, Water
> Purification, Surgical Rooms and Instrumental Sanitation. Now the
> technology has advanced to perform more applications, than traditional
> ones.
> http://www.homeenvirohealth.com
> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
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Posted by Noon-Air on June 4, 2007, 2:20 pm
and your point is????
> This system will save: energy costs, * the life of the HVAC system,
> Kill any * viruses, * mold, * mildew, and * bacteria that come in contact
> with the UVC light. This will prevent the * microbial from being
> circulated throughout the building.
> It is in my belief with proven fact that there are millions of
> Americans that are suffering needlessly with allergen symptoms. Being one
> of the more predominate problems, as I am sure all of you are aware of “*
> dust mites” and the ill effects that they have.
> The services that I propose will not only be of help to those
> allergen suffers, but will indeed be of great help to all. Children can
> develop asthma from the “dust mites”; people whom have no allergies can
> develop them.
> As you are aware of hospitals have been using UVC light technology in
> the area of fifty years plus, for such purposes as TB Wards, Water
> Purification, Surgical Rooms and Instrumental Sanitation. Now the
> technology has advanced to perform more applications, than traditional
> ones.
> http://www.homeenvirohealth.com
> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
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Posted by Zephyr on June 4, 2007, 5:53 pm
What I find funny Noon is that if you read the reports posted by the O.P. ,
you 'll find the EPA testing is in regards to "aerosol effects" in
relationship to "harmful" materials that could be introduced into an HVAC
system. The testing basically was to see if UVC lamps would help reduce
biological agents introduced into the HVAC. I didn't see anything about
"mold", or "efficiency" or even "allergies."
The GSA recommendation is interesting in that it directly contradicts the
Mfg.s' recommendations. Some UVC Mfg.'s suggest putting lights in several
duct system locations "other than downstream."
And, I didn't see any reference to NOT SELLING these devices to the public?
At least that's my take on the reading... I might have missed something
though.
--
Zyp
> and your point is????
> > This system will save: energy costs, * the life of the HVAC system,
> > Kill any * viruses, * mold, * mildew, and * bacteria that come in
contact
> > with the UVC light. This will prevent the * microbial from being
> > circulated throughout the building.
> > It is in my belief with proven fact that there are millions of
> > Americans that are suffering needlessly with allergen symptoms. Being
one
> > of the more predominate problems, as I am sure all of you are aware of
"*
> > dust mites" and the ill effects that they have.
> > The services that I propose will not only be of help to those
> > allergen suffers, but will indeed be of great help to all. Children can
> > develop asthma from the "dust mites"; people whom have no allergies can
> > develop them.
> > As you are aware of hospitals have been using UVC light technology
in
> > the area of fifty years plus, for such purposes as TB Wards, Water
> > Purification, Surgical Rooms and Instrumental Sanitation. Now the
> > technology has advanced to perform more applications, than traditional
> > ones.
> > http://www.homeenvirohealth.com
> > http://www.uvclightpurification.com
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