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Posted by on June 16, 2007, 3:26 pm

>Don't need a putri dish to calculate the effective irradiation.

        WTF is a putri dish ? :-)

>
>As for labs, I have use of two local university bio level 3 labs, 1 level
>IIIb lab. Yes, and a whole host of lovely viri and bacteria to play with.
>Not to mention the supply of soft flurry animals to inject with toxic agents
>lol.
>
>30 day no obligation account? Why I can purchase more types of UV-C tubes
>that you can imagine, all straight from the manufactures lol. Can beat ANY
>price you quote lol.
>
>Tell you what, just out of interest, how much for a 380,000 mWatt/sec at 320
>f/s unit? I built one myself, let's compare prices lol
>
>
>
>> Chris thanks for telling me what you think I know. For coil irradiation
>> they do have energy savings. I have case studies that prove that to be
>> true. The units that I distribute have calculations that are entered
>> into a proprietary software program that will factor all the relativity
>> to the UV technology and have it be effective.
>>
>> I'll tell ya what, get an account; we can do a 30 day no obligation
>> trial. We can swab the coil or use petri dishes (that will be sent to a
>> third party independent lab) before the unit is installed then do the
>> same 30 days later. If the unit did not perform, we will refund all of
>> your customers money that was paid and uninstall the unit. Let me know
>> when you would like to start and where.
>>
>> The documents that you studied not sure what company's product they were
>> referring to? They perform tests on not only the company products that
>> I distribute but others as well. If it was my company's product, the
>> ambient temps do play a part but they still will have the coils clean
>> from build up , with no restrictions. The energy saving is because of
>> the pressure drop across the coil with better air flow, having no
>> restrictions on the air flow, would equate to energy savings. The unit
>> will not have to work as hard to circulate the air, thus improving the
>> over all efficiency. Again we are speaking about coil irradiation.
>>
>> Bio- Terror is another entirely new subject that I would rather not type
>> out and is not just as simple as making a blanket statement. There are
>> many factors, then calculations that are needed to have the application
>> be effective.
>>
>> --
>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>> --------------------------
>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>> Downstream Air Purification
>> --------------------------
>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>> --------------------------
>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>> extend life of the HVAC.
>> ---------------------------
>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
>> have.
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>> Chris wrote:
>> > Jimmy you seem not to know much.
>> >
>> > I studied UV-C from Kowalski (sp). I even have a copy of the classified
>bio
>> > threat calculator of the USA Homeland Security Dept.
>> >
>> >
>> > Your comments about efficiency of the units is not quite correct.
>Relative
>> > humidity has a HUGE effect on their actual output along with ambient
>> > temperature.
>> >
>> > Do some studying before you call yourself a specialist.
>> >
>> >
>in
>> >> -zero wrote:
>wrote
>> > in
>> >>>
>> >>>> You seem to be the only person that keeps talking about me selling
>> > things.
>> >>> The truth is, there's no one here that believes otherwise.
>> >>> You should have researched this trade a whole lot better before
>> >>> jumping in head first. Too late now. And that's what you come off
>> >>> like. A guy who's desperate. Just look at your sig.. Your
>> >>> message ID info at the top of this post... "..Specialists" and
>> >>> sales@blablabla.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> You're ruberstamping your company letter-head at every
>> >>> opertunity, even when you've been told by a neighborly few
>> >>> it's unapropriate.
>> >>>
>> >>> I wish you would think up even MORE ways
>> >>> to self-gloss your self. Make you & your company even more
>> >>> important somehow. Supersize your self!
>> >>>
>> >>>> Enough already with you don't post anything else to me unless its
>> >>>> intelligent and has another purpose than arguing.
>> >>> OK then... Do you check your own bulbs?
>> >>> How do you check/document your bulbs uv output.
>> >>> What brand of calibratable equipment do you use.
>> >>>
>> >>> -zero
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>> >>>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>> >>>> --------------------------
>> >>>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>> >>>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>> >>>> Downstream Air Purification
>> >>>> --------------------------
>> >>>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>> >>>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>> >>>> --------------------------
>> >>>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>> >>>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>> >>>> extend life of the HVAC.
>> >>>> ---------------------------
>> >>>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you
>may
>> >>>> have.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank You
>> >>>
>> >> I should not have to hide who I am or what I represent. I have
>> >> researched and you can read in other postings here that I can support
>> >> that. I was asked to change the company with a name I did, I was asked
>> >> to take out the sales@ in my signature and replace it with a name and I
>> >> did, I was asked to put in a signature by someone here and I did, I was
>> >> told that anything that I put in the signature is legal. Now there is
>a
>> >> problem with what I have in the signature?
>> >>
>> >> They lamps are set by the manufacturer with the specs. that are
>> >> necessary for the applications. The bulbs have a life of 9000 hours
>> >> than the efficiency drops to 80% so it is suggested that the lamps be
>> >> replaced annually. So if the lamps stay illuminated, they are working
>> >> until the annual replacement.
>> >>
>> >> There is a fixed radiometer that could be placed on a system as a
>> >> acccessory:
>> >> A radiometer is generally used to monitor the output of a UVGI system.
>> >> It measures the UV intensity produce by UV lamps. The Fixed Radiometer
>> >> is a type of radiometer designed to indicate relative UV output. It is
>> >> calibrated (i.e. set) to “100%” when the lamps are new and operating
>> >> under normal air conditioning system operation. As the life of the
>lamps
>> >> progresses, or if an unusual event such as a burned out lamp occurs,
>the
>> >> relative UV output will show significantly lower.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>> >> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>> >> --------------------------
>> >> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>> >> Viruses and Bacteria.
>> >> Downstream Air Purification
>> >> --------------------------
>> >> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>> >> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>> >> --------------------------
>> >> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>> >> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>> >> extend life of the HVAC.
>> >> ---------------------------
>> >> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
>> >> have.
>> >>
>> >> Thank You
>> >
>> >
>

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Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 18, 2007, 9:21 am
A petri dish, it's a colorful plate for desert. Served in some of your
finer establishments. You have to try it next time you go to dinner.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
>> Don't need a putri dish to calculate the effective irradiation.
>
>         WTF is a putri dish ? :-)
>
>> As for labs, I have use of two local university bio level 3 labs, 1 level
>> IIIb lab. Yes, and a whole host of lovely viri and bacteria to play with.
>> Not to mention the supply of soft flurry animals to inject with toxic agents
>> lol.
>>
>> 30 day no obligation account? Why I can purchase more types of UV-C tubes
>> that you can imagine, all straight from the manufactures lol. Can beat ANY
>> price you quote lol.
>>
>> Tell you what, just out of interest, how much for a 380,000 mWatt/sec at 320
>> f/s unit? I built one myself, let's compare prices lol
>>
>>
>>
>>> Chris thanks for telling me what you think I know. For coil irradiation
>>> they do have energy savings. I have case studies that prove that to be
>>> true. The units that I distribute have calculations that are entered
>>> into a proprietary software program that will factor all the relativity
>>> to the UV technology and have it be effective.
>>>
>>> I'll tell ya what, get an account; we can do a 30 day no obligation
>>> trial. We can swab the coil or use petri dishes (that will be sent to a
>>> third party independent lab) before the unit is installed then do the
>>> same 30 days later. If the unit did not perform, we will refund all of
>>> your customers money that was paid and uninstall the unit. Let me know
>>> when you would like to start and where.
>>>
>>> The documents that you studied not sure what company's product they were
>>> referring to? They perform tests on not only the company products that
>>> I distribute but others as well. If it was my company's product, the
>>> ambient temps do play a part but they still will have the coils clean
>>> from build up , with no restrictions. The energy saving is because of
>>> the pressure drop across the coil with better air flow, having no
>>> restrictions on the air flow, would equate to energy savings. The unit
>>> will not have to work as hard to circulate the air, thus improving the
>>> over all efficiency. Again we are speaking about coil irradiation.
>>>
>>> Bio- Terror is another entirely new subject that I would rather not type
>>> out and is not just as simple as making a blanket statement. There are
>>> many factors, then calculations that are needed to have the application
>>> be effective.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>>> --------------------------
>>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>>> Downstream Air Purification
>>> --------------------------
>>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>>> --------------------------
>>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>>> extend life of the HVAC.
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
>>> have.
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>>
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Jimmy you seem not to know much.
>>>>
>>>> I studied UV-C from Kowalski (sp). I even have a copy of the classified
>> bio
>>>> threat calculator of the USA Homeland Security Dept.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your comments about efficiency of the units is not quite correct.
>> Relative
>>>> humidity has a HUGE effect on their actual output along with ambient
>>>> temperature.
>>>>
>>>> Do some studying before you call yourself a specialist.
>>>>
>>>>
>> in
>>>>> -zero wrote:
>> wrote
>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You seem to be the only person that keeps talking about me selling
>>>> things.
>>>>>> The truth is, there's no one here that believes otherwise.
>>>>>> You should have researched this trade a whole lot better before
>>>>>> jumping in head first. Too late now. And that's what you come off
>>>>>> like. A guy who's desperate. Just look at your sig.. Your
>>>>>> message ID info at the top of this post... "..Specialists" and
>>>>>> sales@blablabla.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're ruberstamping your company letter-head at every
>>>>>> opertunity, even when you've been told by a neighborly few
>>>>>> it's unapropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish you would think up even MORE ways
>>>>>> to self-gloss your self. Make you & your company even more
>>>>>> important somehow. Supersize your self!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enough already with you don't post anything else to me unless its
>>>>>>> intelligent and has another purpose than arguing.
>>>>>> OK then... Do you check your own bulbs?
>>>>>> How do you check/document your bulbs uv output.
>>>>>> What brand of calibratable equipment do you use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -zero
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>>>>>>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>>>>>>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>>>>>>> Downstream Air Purification
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>>>>>>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>>>>>>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>>>>>>> extend life of the HVAC.
>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you
>> may
>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You
>>>>> I should not have to hide who I am or what I represent. I have
>>>>> researched and you can read in other postings here that I can support
>>>>> that. I was asked to change the company with a name I did, I was asked
>>>>> to take out the sales@ in my signature and replace it with a name and I
>>>>> did, I was asked to put in a signature by someone here and I did, I was
>>>>> told that anything that I put in the signature is legal. Now there is
>> a
>>>>> problem with what I have in the signature?
>>>>>
>>>>> They lamps are set by the manufacturer with the specs. that are
>>>>> necessary for the applications. The bulbs have a life of 9000 hours
>>>>> than the efficiency drops to 80% so it is suggested that the lamps be
>>>>> replaced annually. So if the lamps stay illuminated, they are working
>>>>> until the annual replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a fixed radiometer that could be placed on a system as a
>>>>> acccessory:
>>>>> A radiometer is generally used to monitor the output of a UVGI system.
>>>>> It measures the UV intensity produce by UV lamps. The Fixed Radiometer
>>>>> is a type of radiometer designed to indicate relative UV output. It is
>>>>> calibrated (i.e. set) to “100%” when the lamps are new and operating
>>>>> under normal air conditioning system operation. As the life of the
>> lamps
>>>>> progresses, or if an unusual event such as a burned out lamp occurs,
>> the
>>>>> relative UV output will show significantly lower.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>>>>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>>>>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>>>>> Downstream Air Purification
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
>>>>> http://www.uvclightpurification.com
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>>>>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>>>>> extend life of the HVAC.
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You
>>>>
>


Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on June 18, 2007, 9:28 am

>A petri dish, it's a colorful plate for desert. Served in some of your
>finer establishments. You have to try it next time you go to dinner.

Yeah, it might be, in _your_ "fiiner establishments", where live monkey
brain is on the menu.

LLoyd


Posted by DIMwit on June 18, 2007, 10:29 pm
Petri dish
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Petri dish
A Petri dish is a shallow glass or plastic cylindrical dish that biologists
use to culture cells, which can be bacterial, animal, plant, or fungus. It
was named after the German bacteriologist Julius Richard Petri (1852–1921)
who invented it in 1877 when working as an assistant to Robert Koch. Glass
petri dishes can be re-cycled after use by dry heating in a hot air oven at
160 degrees for one hour, while the plastic petri-dishes must be disposed of
after use.

For microbiology, agar plates are very frequently used. The dish is
partially filled with warm liquid agar along with a particular mix of
nutrients, salts and amino acids and, optionally, antibiotics. After the
agar solidifies, the dish is ready to receive a microbe-laden sample
(although to grow some microbes it is often necessary to apply the sample
with the hot agar).

Other petri dish uses do not involve agar; for instance, cell culture.

Modern Petri dishes often have rings on the lids and bases which allow them
to be stacked so that they do not slide off one another. Multiple dishes can
also be incorporated into one plastic container to create what is called a
"multi-well plate". A microtiter plate is essentially a highly modified
multiwell petri dish plate.

As well as making agar plates, empty Petri dishes may be used to observe
plant germination, small animal behaviour, or for other day-to-day
laboratory practices such as drying fluids in an oven and carrying and
storing samples

>
>>A petri dish, it's a colorful plate for desert. Served in some of your
>>finer establishments. You have to try it next time you go to dinner.
>
> Yeah, it might be, in _your_ "fiiner establishments", where live monkey
> brain is on the menu.
>
> LLoyd
>

grade school science class stuff



Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 18, 2007, 9:25 am
Why not Chris, if I can get it to you cheaper. How many would you be
interested in? For the UV intensity, I said I would supply a chart that
would show every inch of the coil and the amount of UV exposure.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

Chris wrote:
> Don't need a putri dish to calculate the effective irradiation.
>
> As for labs, I have use of two local university bio level 3 labs, 1 level
> IIIb lab. Yes, and a whole host of lovely viri and bacteria to play with.
> Not to mention the supply of soft flurry animals to inject with toxic agents
> lol.
>
> 30 day no obligation account? Why I can purchase more types of UV-C tubes
> that you can imagine, all straight from the manufactures lol. Can beat ANY
> price you quote lol.
>
> Tell you what, just out of interest, how much for a 380,000 mWatt/sec at 320
> f/s unit? I built one myself, let's compare prices lol
>
>
>
>> Chris thanks for telling me what you think I know. For coil irradiation
>> they do have energy savings. I have case studies that prove that to be
>> true. The units that I distribute have calculations that are entered
>> into a proprietary software program that will factor all the relativity
>> to the UV technology and have it be effective.
>>
>> I'll tell ya what, get an account; we can do a 30 day no obligation
>> trial. We can swab the coil or use petri dishes (that will be sent to a
>> third party independent lab) before the unit is installed then do the
>> same 30 days later. If the unit did not perform, we will refund all of
>> your customers money that was paid and uninstall the unit. Let me know
>> when you would like to start and where.
>>
>> The documents that you studied not sure what company's product they were
>> referring to? They perform tests on not only the company products that
>> I distribute but others as well. If it was my company's product, the
>> ambient temps do play a part but they still will have the coils clean
>> from build up , with no restrictions. The energy saving is because of
>> the pressure drop across the coil with better air flow, having no
>> restrictions on the air flow, would equate to energy savings. The unit
>> will not have to work as hard to circulate the air, thus improving the
>> over all efficiency. Again we are speaking about coil irradiation.
>>
>> Bio- Terror is another entirely new s