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Posted by on June 14, 2007, 1:35 am
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>A Lamp (coil irradiation) for example is: The V-Mod 36 uses a Philips
>UV-C Lamp with approximately 9.9 UVC Watts output, at the 254nm range,
>they are soft glass, and low mercury content and do not produce ozone.
>Any other information is proprietary to the company, as they do not
>release the information so our competitors do not try to duplicate the
>technology.
>
>The company is the North America Distributor for Phlilips.
>
>I hope that this satisfies your request.
If this is all you got, the answer is no, it doesnt satisfy my
request.
I'm one of those types of people who seek all the information on a
product thats available before making a choice or decision.
In my area Steril Aire is heavily marketed, primarily because they're
also manufactured locally. They have all kinds of nice slick glossy
color brochures, but when compared to lets say Sanuvox, there's no
comparison.
Why would anybody want to purchase a fixture using bulbs with a life
expectancy of 9000 hours when there's bulbs rated at 17,000 hours?
I guess it boils down to the statement, You Get What You Pay For.
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Posted by Home Enviro Health Specialists on June 14, 2007, 6:42 am
gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> A Lamp (coil irradiation) for example is: The V-Mod 36 uses a Philips
>> UV-C Lamp with approximately 9.9 UVC Watts output, at the 254nm range,
>> they are soft glass, and low mercury content and do not produce ozone.
>> Any other information is proprietary to the company, as they do not
>> release the information so our competitors do not try to duplicate the
>> technology.
>>
>> The company is the North America Distributor for Phlilips.
>>
>> I hope that this satisfies your request.
>
>
> If this is all you got, the answer is no, it doesnt satisfy my
> request.
>
> I'm one of those types of people who seek all the information on a
> product thats available before making a choice or decision.
>
> In my area Steril Aire is heavily marketed, primarily because they're
> also manufactured locally. They have all kinds of nice slick glossy
> color brochures, but when compared to lets say Sanuvox, there's no
> comparison.
>
> Why would anybody want to purchase a fixture using bulbs with a life
> expectancy of 9000 hours when there's bulbs rated at 17,000 hours?
>
> I guess it boils down to the statement, You Get What You Pay For.
Well fish sorry that was not a good enough answer but it does contain
all of the information that would be needed to show what the lamps do.
I did give you all of the information with maybe the exception of a pin
configuration I also referred to the Philips rep. of North America to
ask what you wanted and in his opinion that was satisfactory.
Question? How about a 30 day no obligation money back guarantee. The
unit would be installed, if the unit does not perform, the unit would be
uninstalled, all of your customers money will be returned and it would
cost them absolutely nothing. Either the we can swab the coil or use a
petri dish prior to the unit being installed, then 30 days later do the
same again to see the results.
Sterile-Air is 50% higher on the original purchase price of the units
and the replacement lamps are about tripple the cost verses the units
and lamps I have.
The lamps I have are rated for 9000 hours at that time the efficiency
drops to 80%, the lamp is still good if you do not 100% effectiveness
and will last 17,000 hours. Might want to check and see if that is the
case on the 17,000 hour lamps or if they will even tell you that the
efficiency drops.
I have the nice slick color brochures and then some. Proprietary
software, products quotes with a list of materials that are generated
from the software,, Installation diagram drawings, layout of lamps
placement, plug and play units, safety switches, unit safety design (to
be sure that person can't just plug it in and look at the pretty light)
access doors, and a diagram that will show every inch of the coils UV
exposure. Also a wider range of products that will work for many
different application, unlike competitors.
Yes, you do get what you pay for. Ask those company's if they can or
will do all of those things.
--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
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Viruses and Bacteria.
Downstream Air Purification
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http://www.uvclightpurification.com
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provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
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have.
Thank You
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Posted by dlzc on June 18, 2007, 3:32 pm
Dear gof...:
On Jun 13, 10:35 pm, gof...@gonefishin.net wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >A Lamp (coil irradiation) for example is: The V-Mod 36 uses
> >a Philips UV-C Lamp with approximately 9.9 UVC Watts
> >output, at the 254nm range, they are soft glass, and low
> >mercury content and do not produce ozone. Any other
> >information is proprietary to the company, as they do not
> >release the information so our competitors do not try to
> >duplicate the technology.
>
> >The company is the North America Distributor for Phlilips.
>
> >I hope that this satisfies your request.
>
> If this is all you got, the answer is no, it doesnt satisfy my
> request.
>
> I'm one of those types of people who seek all the
> information on a product thats available before making a
> choice or decision.
>
> In my area Steril Aire is heavily marketed, primarily
> because they're also manufactured locally. They have all
> kinds of nice slick glossy color brochures, but when
> compared to lets say Sanuvox, there's no comparison.
>
> Why would anybody want to purchase a fixture using
> bulbs with a life expectancy of 9000 hours when there's
> bulbs rated at 17,000 hours?
To minimize the cost of legally disposing of lamps that contain
mercury. The only way you get extended life is to oversize the
electrodes, dope them with excess rare earth metals, and add excess
mercury.
> I guess it boils down to the statement, You Get What
> You Pay For.
Like the toys shipped from China with lead-based paint. Sooner or
later, the piper will be paid.
David A. Smith
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Posted by on June 4, 2007, 8:34 pm
wrote:
>I see there are many experts in this forum. How many have any knowledge
>of UV-C technology for HVAC systems. I would like to discuss this and
>get some good feed back.
ok so wadda you wanna talk about? theyre nothing more than a sales
gimmick. be sure to include the yearly costs on bulb replacements.
they require constant fan to be effective, and that alone drives
operational costs thru the roof. they dont save money in the least.
very few on the market place have effective kill zones and for the
most part they're nothing more than marketing hype.
want more feedback?
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Posted by Bubba on June 4, 2007, 8:56 pm
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:34:14 GMT, gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
>wrote:
>
>>I see there are many experts in this forum. How many have any knowledge
>>of UV-C technology for HVAC systems. I would like to discuss this and
>>get some good feed back.
>
>
>ok so wadda you wanna talk about? theyre nothing more than a sales
>gimmick. be sure to include the yearly costs on bulb replacements.
>they require constant fan to be effective, and that alone drives
>operational costs thru the roof. they dont save money in the least.
>very few on the market place have effective kill zones and for the
>most part they're nothing more than marketing hype.
>
>want more feedback?
Ahh shit fish. I guess the "gig" is up now with you talking about the
bulb replacement costs. :-)
How you like the replacement cost of those Honeywell dual bulbs that
snap in and out with just a little 1/4 turn and pretty much are good
for only a year?
At least the Sanuvox is good for 3 years (so they claim).
Bubba
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