Weil-McLain on last legs...keep replacing parts or whole new system?

Posted by on January 5, 2009, 6:53 pm

Hello,

Need some advice. Purchase a 1250 sq ft condo in July. It has a Weil-
McLain AHE boiler Series 4 that was installed in 1994 that provides
baseboard hot water heat and assists a hot water maker/holding tank.
So far, this fall, I've replaced the igniter, the pressure switch, and
oiled the fan (that equals 3 service calls). And now that it's January
and -15 at night, I've hit a wall.

The boiler is still not operating properly. It fires occasionally, but
though it will heat correctly for 20 minutes or so, the flame will
turn off and the boiler will continue to run and circulate water until
the external temperature gauge on the boiler drops to 70 degrees, or
lower, before it will refire. Even though both thermostats and the
water tank are calling for hot water. And only sometimes will it
refire. Usually I have to flip the switch to the boiler, let it sit
for 10 minutes, then turn it back on to get it to fire, warm up, heat
the house (kind of) and then it proceeds to do the same trick.

Needless to say my gas bill and electric bill keep going up. And my
place is not warm at all. And to make matters worse, my hot water
maker (Amtrol) holding tank developed a leak yesterday in the wall of
the tank, so that needs replacing.

So, do I: 1. replace the water tank and keep changing out parts on the
boiler? 2: Replace the boiler and water tank? or 3: Invest in a boiler
that doesn't require a separate water holding tank?

Thanks for any advice. This is one of the joys of homeownership, I
realize, but I still would like a warm house and a hot shower anytime
I want!

Cheers!

Posted by The King on January 5, 2009, 7:19 pm

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:53:40 -0800 (PST), alaskarockgirl@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hello,
>Need some advice. Purchase a 1250 sq ft condo in July. It has a Weil-
>McLain AHE boiler Series 4 that was installed in 1994 that provides
>baseboard hot water heat and assists a hot water maker/holding tank.
>So far, this fall, I've replaced the igniter, the pressure switch, and
>oiled the fan (that equals 3 service calls). And now that it's January
>and -15 at night, I've hit a wall.
>The boiler is still not operating properly. It fires occasionally, but
>though it will heat correctly for 20 minutes or so, the flame will
>turn off and the boiler will continue to run and circulate water until
>the external temperature gauge on the boiler drops to 70 degrees, or
>lower, before it will refire. Even though both thermostats and the
>water tank are calling for hot water. And only sometimes will it
>refire. Usually I have to flip the switch to the boiler, let it sit
>for 10 minutes, then turn it back on to get it to fire, warm up, heat
>the house (kind of) and then it proceeds to do the same trick.
>Needless to say my gas bill and electric bill keep going up. And my
>place is not warm at all. And to make matters worse, my hot water
>maker (Amtrol) holding tank developed a leak yesterday in the wall of
>the tank, so that needs replacing.
>So, do I: 1. replace the water tank and keep changing out parts on the
>boiler? 2: Replace the boiler and water tank? or 3: Invest in a boiler
>that doesn't require a separate water holding tank?
>Thanks for any advice. This is one of the joys of homeownership, I
>realize, but I still would like a warm house and a hot shower anytime
>I want!
>Cheers!

Take your Alaskan welfare check and help some poor hvac guy stay in
business by buying a new boiler.

Posted by Fartikus on January 6, 2009, 5:54 am

> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:53:40 -0800 (PST), alaskarockgirl@gmail.com
> wrote:

>>Hello,
>>Need some advice. Purchase a 1250 sq ft condo in July. It has a Weil-
>>McLain AHE boiler Series 4 that was installed in 1994 that provides
>>baseboard hot water heat and assists a hot water maker/holding tank.
>>So far, this fall, I've replaced the igniter, the pressure switch, and
>>oiled the fan (that equals 3 service calls). And now that it's January
>>and -15 at night, I've hit a wall.
>>The boiler is still not operating properly. It fires occasionally, but
>>though it will heat correctly for 20 minutes or so, the flame will
>>turn off and the boiler will continue to run and circulate water until
>>the external temperature gauge on the boiler drops to 70 degrees, or
>>lower, before it will refire. Even though both thermostats and the
>>water tank are calling for hot water. And only sometimes will it
>>refire. Usually I have to flip the switch to the boiler, let it sit
>>for 10 minutes, then turn it back on to get it to fire, warm up, heat
>>the house (kind of) and then it proceeds to do the same trick.
>>Needless to say my gas bill and electric bill keep going up. And my
>>place is not warm at all. And to make matters worse, my hot water
>>maker (Amtrol) holding tank developed a leak yesterday in the wall of
>>the tank, so that needs replacing.
>>So, do I: 1. replace the water tank and keep changing out parts on the
>>boiler? 2: Replace the boiler and water tank? or 3: Invest in a boiler
>>that doesn't require a separate water holding tank?
>>Thanks for any advice. This is one of the joys of homeownership, I
>>realize, but I still would like a warm house and a hot shower anytime
>>I want!
>>Cheers!

> Take your Alaskan welfare check and help some poor hvac guy stay in
> business by buying a new boiler.

So the Alaskan HVAC guy doesn't get his welfare check too? poor guy.

Posted by Perry on January 17, 2009, 9:57 pm

Perry had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/hvac/Re-Weil-McLain-on-last-legs-keep-replacing-parts-or-whole-36326-.htm
:

-------------------------------------
Fartikus wrote:

> message

>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:53:40 -0800 (PST), alaskarockgirl@gmail.com
>> wrote:

>>>Hello,
>>>Need some advice. Purchase a 1250 sq ft condo in July. It has a
>>> Weil-
>>>McLain AHE boiler Series 4 that was installed in 1994 that
>>> provides
>>>baseboard hot water heat and assists a hot water maker/holding
>>> tank.
>>>So far, this fall, I've replaced the igniter, the pressure
>>> switch, and
>>>oiled the fan (that equals 3 service calls). And now that it's
>>> January
>>>and -15 at night, I've hit a wall.
>>>The boiler is still not operating properly. It fires
>>> occasionally, but
>>>though it will heat correctly for 20 minutes or so, the flame
>>> will
>>>turn off and the boiler will continue to run and circulate
>>> water until
>>>the external temperature gauge on the boiler drops to 70
>>> degrees, or
>>>lower, before it will refire. Even though both thermostats and
>>> the
>>>water tank are calling for hot water. And only sometimes will
>>> it
>>>refire. Usually I have to flip the switch to the boiler, let it
>>> sit
>>>for 10 minutes, then turn it back on to get it to fire, warm
>>> up, heat
>>>the house (kind of) and then it proceeds to do the same trick.
>>>Needless to say my gas bill and electric bill keep going up.
>>> And my
>>>place is not warm at all. And to make matters worse, my hot
>>> water
>>>maker (Amtrol) holding tank developed a leak yesterday in the
>>> wall of
>>>the tank, so that needs replacing.
>>>So, do I: 1. replace the water tank and keep changing out parts
>>> on the
>>>boiler? 2: Replace the boiler and water tank? or 3: Invest in a
>>> boiler
>>>that doesn't require a separate water holding tank?
>>>Thanks for any advice. This is one of the joys of
>>> homeownership, I
>>>realize, but I still would like a warm house and a hot shower
>>> anytime
>>>I want!
>>>Cheers!

>> Take your Alaskan welfare check and help some poor hvac guy stay
>> in
>> business by buying a new boiler.

> So the Alaskan HVAC guy doesn't get his welfare check too? poor guy.

Get you a Noritz instantanious Water Heater. No Tank, a lot more Eff.

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Posted by YOUNG GUN on February 14, 2009, 2:29 pm

YOUNG GUN had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/hvac/Re-Weil-McLain-on-last-legs-keep-replacing-parts-or-whole-36542-.htm
:

I prefer the munchkin contender.
-------------------------------------
Perry wrote:

> Perry had written this in response to

http://www.thestuccocompany.com/hvac/Re-Weil-McLain-on-last-legs-keep-replacing-parts-or-whole-36326-.htm

> :

> -------------------------------------
> Fartikus wrote:

>> message

>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:53:40 -0800 (PST),
>>> alaskarockgirl@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>Hello,
>>>>Need some advice. Purchase a 1250 sq ft condo in July. It
>>>> has a
>>>> Weil-
>>>>McLain AHE boiler Series 4 that was installed in 1994 that
>>>> provides
>>>>baseboard hot water heat and assists a hot water
>>>> maker/holding
>>>> tank.
>>>>So far, this fall, I've replaced the igniter, the pressure
>>>> switch, and
>>>>oiled the fan (that equals 3 service calls). And now that
>>>> it's
>>>> January
>>>>and -15 at night, I've hit a wall.
>>>>The boiler is still not operating properly. It fires
>>>> occasionally, but
>>>>though it will heat correctly for 20 minutes or so, the
>>>> flame
>>>> will
>>>>turn off and the boiler will continue to run and circulate
>>>> water until
>>>>the external temperature gauge on the boiler drops to 70
>>>> degrees, or
>>>>lower, before it will refire. Even though both thermostats
>>>> and
>>>> the
>>>>water tank are calling for hot water. And only sometimes
>>>> will
>>>> it
>>>>refire. Usually I have to flip the switch to the boiler,
>>>> let it
>>>> sit
>>>>for 10 minutes, then turn it back on to get it to fire,
>>>> warm
>>>> up, heat
>>>>the house (kind of) and then it proceeds to do the same
>>>> trick.
>>>>Needless to say my gas bill and electric bill keep going
>>>> up.
>>>> And my
>>>>place is not warm at all. And to make matters worse, my hot
>>>> water
>>>>maker (Amtrol) holding tank developed a leak yesterday in
>>>> the
>>>> wall of
>>>>the tank, so that needs replacing.
>>>>So, do I: 1. replace the water tank and keep changing out
>>>> parts
>>>> on the
>>>>boiler? 2: Replace the boiler and water tank? or 3: Invest
>>>> in a
>>>> boiler
>>>>that doesn't require a separate water holding tank?
>>>>Thanks for any advice. This is one of the joys of
>>>> homeownership, I
>>>>realize, but I still would like a warm house and a hot
>>>> shower
>>>> anytime
>>>>I want!
>>>>Cheers!
>>> Take your Alaskan welfare check and help some poor hvac guy
>>> stay
>>> in
>>> business by buying a new boiler.

>> So the Alaskan HVAC guy doesn't get his welfare check too? poor
>> guy.

> Get you a Noritz instantanious Water Heater. No Tank, a lot more Eff.

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